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06 Jul 2013, 9:21 pm

I was born in Canada..my heritage is Scottish and Dutch. Hubby was born in El Salvador. His mom is Salvadoran and his father is Guatamalen.



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06 Jul 2013, 11:03 pm

I am part italian,my great grandfather was italian



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17 Jul 2013, 7:21 pm

Half Indian( from India) half white



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17 Jul 2013, 7:23 pm

Half English, half French / Cherokee mix.


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17 Jul 2013, 8:03 pm

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It's quite sad that people of biracial background who appear "white" are more accepted into mainstream society than a sibling who is darker skinned. A bit like a high functioning Aspie who is better treated than his/her low functioning sibling with ASD. Ethnicity is yet another socially determined hierarchical spectrum.


Is that really so? Can you give examples?


In my school there were Anglo-Indian (mixed Indian-English) sisters. One was quite "Caucasian" looking with blue eyes. She was popular and had many friends. Her older sister (in my class) was dark skinned and was shunned having no friends (but she was more academically inclined than her younger sibling).


But was one more sociable/dressed better than the other one?

Yes, the "Caucasian" looking younger sister was a popular party girl, into clothes, fashion (that sought of stuff). The older "darker" sister spent her free time in the library and virtually had no friends. When I look back I realise the older sister (who looked more Indian) was probably a more interesting person as she was really smart and most likely ended up with a better job (I'm speculating of course since I lost touch after I left school).



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17 Jul 2013, 8:29 pm

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It's quite sad that people of biracial background who appear "white" are more accepted into mainstream society than a sibling who is darker skinned. A bit like a high functioning Aspie who is better treated than his/her low functioning sibling with ASD. Ethnicity is yet another socially determined hierarchical spectrum.

As long as governments find ethneticity (sp?) important enough to have tick-boxes on forms, and as long as people feel the need to point out that they are X% black and Y% white instead of talking about how their Somali and Irish culture in their homes have influenced them.


Is 'race' about the genetic traits or the social environment/culture? If it is about genetics, then why are different caucasian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? Or different asian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? But black is always black, not multiracial?

I look Indian (the country), but my heritage (or the culture I grew up in) is not. Does that make me 'biracial'?

Besides, I thought all humans were the same race or species.


Yes biologically humans are so closely related that the concept of ethnicity is considered (by science) not significant except in matters pertaining to risk of disease where one needs to develop a family history to gauge susceptibility to conditions such as Type II diabetes, cardiovascular conditions or kidney disease which are increased if you originate from certain ethnic groups. In addition people from communities who practice endogamy (such as cross-cousin marriage) should be encouraged to have children with somebody of a different ethnicity to avoid inbreeding.

The issue of Americans of African origin calling themselves "black" originally started with the "one-drop rule" when Americans who even had a fraction slave ancestry were considered (by law) slaves. A similar classification system was adopted during the apartheid era in White South Africa and in the White Australia policy in Australia (prior to the 1960s). Nowadays the term "black" is purely a political label. Frankly I find it bizarre that actresses Halle Berry and Paula Patton consider their European looking (and 75% white) children to be black while singer Carly Simon (who'se mother was black from Cuba), Jennifer Lopez (25% black) and Jessica Alba (25% black) and notorious vigilante George Zimmerman (who'se South American mother has Native Indian and African ancestry) considered themselves white?

If you look East Indian but your heritage is not that does that make you 'biracial'. Read some of the work of Oxford geneticist Spencer Welles. For instance almost all white Europeans (Including lily white republicans in the Tea Party) have distant ancestors from either Africa, Native Americans or Asia or a combination.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/



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17 Jul 2013, 8:33 pm

For those of you interested in the Human genographic project
http://www.ted.com/talks/spencer_wells_ ... anity.html



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18 Jul 2013, 1:38 am

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As long as governments find ethneticity (sp?) important enough to have tick-boxes on forms, and as long as people feel the need to point out that they are X% black and Y% white instead of talking about how their Somali and Irish culture in their homes have influenced them.


Is 'race' about the genetic traits or the social environment/culture? If it is about genetics, then why are different caucasian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? Or different asian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? But black is always black, not multiracial?

I look Indian (the country), but my heritage (or the culture I grew up in) is not. Does that make me 'biracial'?

Besides, I thought all humans were the same race or species.


Yes biologically humans are so closely related that the concept of ethnicity is considered (by science) not significant except in matters pertaining to risk of disease where one needs to develop a family history to gauge susceptibility to conditions such as Type II diabetes, cardiovascular conditions or kidney disease which are increased if you originate from certain ethnic groups. In addition people from communities who practice endogamy (such as cross-cousin marriage) should be encouraged to have children with somebody of a different ethnicity to avoid inbreeding.

The issue of Americans of African origin calling themselves "black" originally started with the "one-drop rule" when Americans who even had a fraction slave ancestry were considered (by law) slaves. A similar classification system was adopted during the apartheid era in White South Africa and in the White Australia policy in Australia (prior to the 1960s). Nowadays the term "black" is purely a political label. Frankly I find it bizarre that actresses Halle Berry and Paula Patton consider their European looking (and 75% white) children to be black while singer Carly Simon (who'se mother was black from Cuba), Jennifer Lopez (25% black) and Jessica Alba (25% black) and notorious vigilante George Zimmerman (who'se South American mother has Native Indian and African ancestry) considered themselves white?

If you look East Indian but your heritage is not that does that make you 'biracial'. Read some of the work of Oxford geneticist Spencer Welles. For instance almost all white Europeans (Including lily white republicans in the Tea Party) have distant ancestors from either Africa, Native Americans or Asia or a combination.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

Yeah, I know I'm indian, not bi-racial. I was being sarcastic. I find it hilarious but sad, that some people believe that 'multi-national heretage' means you are 'multi-racial', since said people indicates that they subscribe to the racial theory, but clearly don't understand it. It doesn't matter if you are 12.5%spanish, 50% german, 12.5% irish and 25% polish, you are still 'caucacian'. You aren't multi-racial just because you are a 'european mutt'. (<trying to be funny) Feel free to substitute the european nationalities with asian or african or native american or whatever ones. The end result is still the same. Japanese/chinese is stil asian, not 'bi-racial', gambian/somali is still black, not 'bi-racial' etc.



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18 Jul 2013, 8:18 pm

EmberEyes wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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As long as governments find ethneticity (sp?) important enough to have tick-boxes on forms, and as long as people feel the need to point out that they are X% black and Y% white instead of talking about how their Somali and Irish culture in their homes have influenced them.


Is 'race' about the genetic traits or the social environment/culture? If it is about genetics, then why are different caucasian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? Or different asian nationalities in the ancestry considered multiracial? But black is always black, not multiracial?

I look Indian (the country), but my heritage (or the culture I grew up in) is not. Does that make me 'biracial'?

Besides, I thought all humans were the same race or species.


Yes biologically humans are so closely related that the concept of ethnicity is considered (by science) not significant except in matters pertaining to risk of disease where one needs to develop a family history to gauge susceptibility to conditions such as Type II diabetes, cardiovascular conditions or kidney disease which are increased if you originate from certain ethnic groups. In addition people from communities who practice endogamy (such as cross-cousin marriage) should be encouraged to have children with somebody of a different ethnicity to avoid inbreeding.

The issue of Americans of African origin calling themselves "black" originally started with the "one-drop rule" when Americans who even had a fraction slave ancestry were considered (by law) slaves. A similar classification system was adopted during the apartheid era in White South Africa and in the White Australia policy in Australia (prior to the 1960s). Nowadays the term "black" is purely a political label. Frankly I find it bizarre that actresses Halle Berry and Paula Patton consider their European looking (and 75% white) children to be black while singer Carly Simon (who'se mother was black from Cuba), Jennifer Lopez (25% black) and Jessica Alba (25% black) and notorious vigilante George Zimmerman (who'se South American mother has Native Indian and African ancestry) considered themselves white?

If you look East Indian but your heritage is not that does that make you 'biracial'. Read some of the work of Oxford geneticist Spencer Welles. For instance almost all white Europeans (Including lily white republicans in the Tea Party) have distant ancestors from either Africa, Native Americans or Asia or a combination.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

Yeah, I know I'm indian, not bi-racial. I was being sarcastic. I find it hilarious but sad, that some people believe that 'multi-national heretage' means you are 'multi-racial', since said people indicates that they subscribe to the racial theory, but clearly don't understand it. It doesn't matter if you are 12.5%spanish, 50% german, 12.5% irish and 25% polish, you are still 'caucacian'. You aren't multi-racial just because you are a 'european mutt'. (<trying to be funny) Feel free to substitute the european nationalities with asian or african or native american or whatever ones. The end result is still the same. Japanese/chinese is stil asian, not 'bi-racial', gambian/somali is still black, not 'bi-racial' etc.


Which part of India do your parents come from? I understand people within India consider each community to be different racially/ethnically (sounds worse than western countries)
Yes I understand what you are saying. People saying they have one parent who is Dutch and one who is French etc does not equate to multi-ethnic, it's probably better to describe their background as multi-cultural.



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10 Aug 2014, 7:32 am

We still have a very long way to go until we hit the point where we can truly claim to be racially blind. The idea that mixed marriages contirbute positively is sound but it's not enough really. I dont think we'll become tolerant until society evolves into a meritocracy. Once we do each person will be far more likely to be judged based on their individual achievements in isolation. Also as long as there are nation states based on ethnicity there will be fuel for racists. The west is however probably closest to something resembling true integration.

I think we may have to sacrifice the "Purity" of our cultural traditions to achieve true unity. By this I mean that the idea of individual cultures remaining enclaves devoted to tradition inevitably creates a degree of xenophobia. I think the sacrifice would however be worthwhile since the product of our primitive tribal attachment to land and genealogy has resulted in war and strife.

Culture should be organised around ideals and personality rather than genetic markers. I would hope that in the above world we would reorganise into groups based on ties with far more substance than the arbitrary and sometimes jingoistic ties of today


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10 Aug 2014, 9:53 am

As far as I know German, Irish, Scandinavian(not sure which country), Native american and British but not 100% sure on all those European ones. So yeah basically white and native.


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10 Aug 2014, 11:16 am

I'm Eurasian. European and Chinese. :)



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10 Aug 2014, 12:51 pm

Irish and Indian (Native American - Cherokee)



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10 Aug 2014, 1:33 pm

1/2 indian and 1/2 white. I think for me this really complicated things, it is no big deal now but literally no one was mixed race in the 80s especially where I live, combined with my parents obscure religion not linked to either background. I think I always felt different and wrongly assumed this was the reason. Once I realised I have aspergers it all fell into place, not just for me, I realised it goes back further and recognised some traits in my parents, and that they were both obviously interested in other cultures (through migration, mixed race marriage and seeking out a new religion) and weren't concerned about the social conventions of the time which is all very aspergers. Makes me realise I wouldn't even exist were it not for autism.



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26 Nov 2015, 10:24 pm

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I'm not sure if this counts. My parents are both from Ecuador, but I'm Canadian. Both sides of my family are part white and part South American(native).My sister looks South American and I look white and slightly Spanish. One of my cousins has ASD and she looks even whiter than me. Her sister is NT and darker. I wonder if there is a connection between ASD and pale skin?


Hmm, glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I know very few people who are dark or tanned skin and are on the spectrum. I myself am a mixed race fellow (German, Irish, English, Scottish, Danish, Dutch, Welsh, Native American, African American, Mexican) who is of a "tannish" complexion and I have Aspergers. Although I do know my uncle's son who is African American is severely autistic.



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27 Nov 2015, 6:12 am

I often wonder if I'm at least part alien :alien: