Icarus_Falling wrote:
RainSong wrote:
Icarus_Falling wrote:
I confess that I often wonder if free will is to fate as good is to evil, that they are the very same thing merely observed from different precepts.
I confess that I believe there is a difference between good and evil; while they go with each other, they are not the same. I confess that while I believe it's possible to manipulate the view of each of these concepts, the intent behind it - that is, the desire to do right or wrong - makes a great deal of difference.
I confess that as I read this, this old saying came immediately to mind:
"
The road to hell is paved with good intentions..."
I confess that in this context, "precept" and "intent" strike me as synonymous. I confess when I think about the amount of evil that has been committed in the name of good throughout human history, I get a cold shiver in my mind. Intent is too... easy a rationale; if there is a difference, it must be very much more than this, independent of this.
A thought exercise: I submit that the extermination of all human life might be viewed as a good thing, a thing that might be pursued with good intent. Think about it; all suffering* and pain* would end; everyone's problems would be solved; there'd be no hate, no war, no violence* no greed, no suffering*, no famine*, no pollution, no worrying; there'd be nobody being subjugated and brutalized and exploited and enslaved; there's be nobody desperately looking for love and companionship they cannot find... I could go on in this vein for a long, long time, but I'll take it that you get the idea. And in the end, the entire notion of evil [and good] would be entirely erased. It would be...
beautiful.
Would this be an act of good? I've provided justification. An act of evil? I conveniently ignored the downsides of such an act. If both, which outweighs the other?
I confess that good is my lover, and evil is my mistress; good is my angel, and evil is my succubus; I know them both quite intimately.
Good fortune,
- Icarus the Grim
[*These are things that can be found in nature, but they differ by having no notion of good or evil attached to them.]
I confess that I don't believe in that saying. I confess that it seems to me to be an excuse for "evil" actions; I confess that I know of people who do wrong things simply to do them, simply to cause pain, simply to be evil. I confess that, in my opinion, they have no excuse, least of all good intentions. Not all evil actions are undertaken with good intentions.
I confess that one can do wrong (evil) whilst having good intentions; I confess that while I understand that, I believe that there's some good left in that person, because they meant to do good. I confess that the person who did it purely to harm others has no good in them (at least concerning that), and it was an evil action entirely.
I confess there are other differences, of course, but that one is (in my mind) important.
I think that something as large as human extermination is entirely too affecting to be all good or all evil.
I confess that I find no reason for you to feel bad; I was simply stating why I was not responding that night (despite being in other parts of the forum). I confess that you would have no way of knowing this, and there's no reason at all not to start a discussion.
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"Nothing worth having is easy."
Three years!