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06 Aug 2009, 1:20 pm

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^^the simple answer to that question is: I did Scandinavian Studies because it was the only course I got into with my sh***y high-school marks! :P


actually, that makes sense :D
the other one was truly a fanatic :I

"scandinavian studies" it sounds... so pointless :D like some bohemian artsy thing to pick "i wanna totally learn everything about the swedish!"


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06 Aug 2009, 2:15 pm

..........English>.<



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06 Aug 2009, 2:30 pm

Spanish (native) & English (2nd).....

I tried German and French but the only thing I learned was 'Hello! I don't speak [German/French]'



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06 Aug 2009, 2:31 pm

! Ola



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06 Aug 2009, 4:19 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
^^the simple answer to that question is: I did Scandinavian Studies because it was the only course I got into with my sh***y high-school marks! :P


actually, that makes sense :D
the other one was truly a fanatic :I

"scandinavian studies" it sounds... so pointless :D like some bohemian artsy thing to pick "i wanna totally learn everything about the swedish!"


yes, I know more about the Swedes than I would like to haha :wink:


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06 Aug 2009, 5:39 pm

My first language is English, but I also speak French. I also take Spanish at school, but I haven't learned much.



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06 Aug 2009, 8:40 pm

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how different are hebrew and arabic?

the only ones i know are the greetings, and theire very similar
shalom aleichem
salam aleikum

well in arabic i of course know some of those chants and mannerisms they do, but those are unavoidable if you got tv :D
im very observative (duh! :D ) and ive actually "learned" to pick out the "inchallah" from arabic speech, since they say it so often i notice when they do :D



"inchallah" means "with god will" so u can just stick it anywhere,we use it too often as it reflects our lazy attitude toward timetables and planning ahead or expectation for things to get better(or worth),it takes the loads and responsibility from our shoulders as things would materialize only if god will them to do
it is also function as an encouragement,
in Hebrew we say "be'ezrat hashem","בעזרת השם",Shem is the name of the Jewish god which doesn't have a name so they just call him "name"{"שם"} ,"shem"=name.

Hebrew have a lot of common words with Arabic,more important,the logic or philosophy behind those language is quite similar but Hebrew is really unique because it is a very ancient language and as such can be really weird sometime

i also think that an observative individual can pick a language really quick and if u r in the right mood u can get a language just by watching tv or movies because when u hear it in a context of a story with the right body gestures u can ussually fill in the blanks as human drama and behaviur are pretty much the same all over the world
and the basic sounds or the music of the language are also quite the same
for instance
exclamation and question phrases sounds the same across all languages



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06 Aug 2009, 9:48 pm

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I am trying to learn Hebrew over the internet. I have learned the alphabet, I can read it and write it but I don't know any grammar rules or any words. I don't think I will ever learn it fluently because I think that would take too much hard work.

Anyone else interested in other languages?


I know English, can converse in Spanish, have some knowledge of Latin, some of Hebrew too. I know that verbs can have gender and I think have to match their subject's gender. -im is the masculine plural. -ah is the feminine singular. -ot is the feminine plural. A vav at the beginning of a word means "and". Ha- is the definite article. There's a particle spelled with aleph-tav, pronounced "et" and it denotes the object of the verb. Be- means "in the". Like be-yom would mean "in the day" and be-yom-im would mean "in the days".



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07 Aug 2009, 2:39 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Barblen wrote:
I am trying to learn Hebrew over the internet. I have learned the alphabet, I can read it and write it but I don't know any grammar rules or any words. I don't think I will ever learn it fluently because I think that would take too much hard work.

Anyone else interested in other languages?


I know English, can converse in Spanish, have some knowledge of Latin, some of Hebrew too. I know that verbs can have gender and I think have to match their subject's gender. -im is the masculine plural. -ah is the feminine singular. -ot is the feminine plural. A vav at the beginning of a word means "and". Ha- is the definite article. There's a particle spelled with aleph-tav, pronounced "et" and it denotes the object of the verb. Be- means "in the". Like be-yom would mean "in the day" and be-yom-im would mean "in the days".


In Hebrew numbers too have gender
Echad is for 1 male
Echat for 1 female
Shnniyem for 2 males
Shteiyem for 2 females
Shalosh 3
Shlosha 3
As u can see it can be quite difficult as the rules doesn't follow simple patterns and many native speaker of the language also tend to be confused at this
me too ,
but that because as an many aspies i have some issues with the traditional male-female perceptions
Hebrew is quite chauvinistic,probably because as an ancient language it tend to reflect old tradition and perceptions
Many feminists here are intentionally speaking "bad" Hebrew as a protest against discrimination
any way most of the time it really doesn't make sense
for instance
Star is male while the Sun is a female
go figure



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07 Aug 2009, 3:15 am

I speak English (it counts, my native language is German), used to get by with French and tried to learn Turkish because I found a friend who was Turkish. After she only showed interest in me when she needed something I lost interest in the language.


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07 Aug 2009, 4:23 am

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LOL! Does morse code count?


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07 Aug 2009, 5:41 am

Aside from English, I speak

....Mandarin Chinese(taught at school before during sophomore)
....Nihongo a.k.a. Japanese(need to learn it so that I could understand my aunt's husband,but until now,I couldn't master it.. :( )
....Spanish
....Filipino(quite similar to spanish)
....Norwegian(just similar to a tounge twister)


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07 Aug 2009, 6:51 am

1. Pictures (native)
2. Words (second)


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07 Aug 2009, 10:05 am

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ZEGH8578 wrote:


how different are hebrew and arabic?

the only ones i know are the greetings, and theire very similar
shalom aleichem
salam aleikum

well in arabic i of course know some of those chants and mannerisms they do, but those are unavoidable if you got tv :D
im very observative (duh! :D ) and ive actually "learned" to pick out the "inchallah" from arabic speech, since they say it so often i notice when they do :D



"inchallah" means "with god will" so u can just stick it anywhere,we use it too often as it reflects our lazy attitude toward timetables and planning ahead or expectation for things to get better(or worth),it takes the loads and responsibility from our shoulders as things would materialize only if god will them to do
it is also function as an encouragement,
in Hebrew we say "be'ezrat hashem","בעזרת השם",Shem is the name of the Jewish god which doesn't have a name so they just call him "name"{"שם"} ,"shem"=name.

Hebrew have a lot of common words with Arabic,more important,the logic or philosophy behind those language is quite similar but Hebrew is really unique because it is a very ancient language and as such can be really weird sometime

i also think that an observative individual can pick a language really quick and if u r in the right mood u can get a language just by watching tv or movies because when u hear it in a context of a story with the right body gestures u can ussually fill in the blanks as human drama and behaviur are pretty much the same all over the world
and the basic sounds or the music of the language are also quite the same
for instance
exclamation and question phrases sounds the same across all languages


the real challenge in grasping a language, is to first understand the order of words. like english "the red car" vs spanish "the car red"

if i for example watched a spanish show w subtitles, i'd assume that

EL = the
Coche = red
and
Rojo = car
according to the subtitles :D
but once you know how the language is built up, you learn a lot. i know english very well :D
in fact, i catch errors in the subtitles all the time, sometimes embarassing glaring errors :D


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07 Aug 2009, 10:25 am

/wishes she could still remember the Japanese she learned in high school :(



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07 Aug 2009, 2:28 pm

My Primary is English but my Secondary is Vietnamese (Native) but my parents never really taught me most of the language. I only know parts of it. My sister however completely knows the language =/