Many of the disorders in the DSM should be removed

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24 Jan 2010, 7:51 am

How do you know that people who have these disorders are mainly successful?


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24 Jan 2010, 7:55 am

I said that I've read about them, I once knew a person who gave birth to a dead fetus, she recovered quickly from the loss, but she didn't become depressed or anything... I think, no one in the family reported that she laid in bed all the time or that she didn't come to work.



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24 Jan 2010, 7:58 am

Yes, but these are only a few people, there are people whose lives have been ruined by these things that you think are not disorders. Do you have a better word than "disorder" for something that has such a serious impact on someone's life.

Also, giving birth to a dead foetus is not the same thing as depression. It may lead to situational depression, or it may not. Everyone responds differently to events.


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24 Jan 2010, 8:01 am

Why should people who just suddenly becomes you-know-what feel so down without having been through anything when the woman just acted like nothing happened?

I think the human mind is so overrated, it's so silly.



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24 Jan 2010, 8:02 am

Because something has gone wrong in their brain.

The human brain is an organ just like any other; things can go wrong with it. When this happens, I don't think it should be seen as a character flaw.


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24 Jan 2010, 8:15 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I have read about many successful people who have so-called disorders, they smile, laugh, and seem completely fine, they just feel itty bitty sad or afraid on the inside.

And how many of these successfull people end up breaking down, dieing of stress-related illnesses or going bat-sh*t crazy?

Also consider your sources, these recounts you've read were they written by the people they were about or by a second party?



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24 Jan 2010, 8:17 am

That sucks.



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24 Jan 2010, 8:18 am

It certainly does.


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24 Jan 2010, 10:35 am

Well I have major depressive disorder and believe me, it's not just something that goes away in a day or two.

It's very hard to deal with and I went through 3 suicidal attempts. The feelings are not easy to describe to someone who's never had it. To tell someone to snap out of it would be like telling a blind man to see.


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24 Jan 2010, 11:37 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
Depression is just a mood, ...


Which is why it's a mood disorder. When it interferes with one's life to a marked amount (social, vocation and academia), that's when it's classed as a disorder.

Depression, or better, overwhelming and disabling sadness for no cognitive reason, is just as real as any ASD.

The word "depression" gets thrown around a lot, and it's often misused. The same thing will probably happen to "autism" soon enough to describe normal asocial behaviour, just as "depression" is used to erroneously describe typical sadness from life events. The same thing happened with OCD too.



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24 Jan 2010, 11:38 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Well I have major depressive disorder and believe me, it's not just something that goes away in a day or two.

It's very hard to deal with and I went through 3 suicidal attempts. The feelings are not easy to describe to someone who's never had it. To tell someone to snap out of it would be like telling a blind man to see.


It's a common thing that aspies think about suicide, I have many aspie friends that have been like that, and they're not depressive.



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24 Jan 2010, 12:13 pm

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Well I have major depressive disorder and believe me, it's not just something that goes away in a day or two.

It's very hard to deal with and I went through 3 suicidal attempts. The feelings are not easy to describe to someone who's never had it. To tell someone to snap out of it would be like telling a blind man to see.


It's a common thing that aspies think about suicide, I have many aspie friends that have been like that, and they're not depressive.


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24 Jan 2010, 12:31 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Well I have major depressive disorder and believe me, it's not just something that goes away in a day or two.

It's very hard to deal with and I went through 3 suicidal attempts. The feelings are not easy to describe to someone who's never had it. To tell someone to snap out of it would be like telling a blind man to see.


It's a common thing that aspies think about suicide, I have many aspie friends that have been like that, and they're not depressive.


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I didn't write somehting offensive?



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24 Jan 2010, 12:31 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
Well I have major depressive disorder and believe me, it's not just something that goes away in a day or two.

It's very hard to deal with and I went through 3 suicidal attempts. The feelings are not easy to describe to someone who's never had it. To tell someone to snap out of it would be like telling a blind man to see.


It's a common thing that aspies think about suicide, I have many aspie friends that have been like that, and they're not depressive.


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I didn't write something offensive?



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24 Jan 2010, 4:50 pm

Although I don't entirely agree with your opinion, I do believe that SOME people have got depression/anxiety severe enough to be diagnosed as a disorder, I do agree that there are too many lables being given to any behaviour deemed 'abnormal'. That child has a small tremor in their eye lid: 'eyelid twitch disorder', that man can't stop scratching his head: head scratch disorder, this woman can't concentrate because a man she likes is staring in her direction: Can't concentrate because of man looking in my direction disorder...

I'm most confused about these 'personality disorders' because most everyone seems to have one according to the tests!


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24 Jan 2010, 10:21 pm

I don't feel that Clinical Depression should be removed. I was clinically diagnosed, 12 years ago, and I still find it a struggle to get going, on most mornings. There are times that I cry over stuff that people would call little things. My medications do help me, If I wasn't on those pills, it would be a lot worse.

I'm Mick...what can I say. :lol:


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