Planning to go to Heaven next week!! !! !! !! !!

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I do not believe in god or heaven and hell after life but I do believe nobody wishes to die really. I believe what they wish for is that the pain and sorrow would go away. But how to do that?

It depends on the person and situation also but I think the Buddha said some pretty wise things about suffering and not being satisfied due to not getting what you grave for. Or basically one's suffering is caused by oneself due to one is graving something so badly.. and is unsatisfied when the wish, want, urge, graving isn't met.

Try not to grave so much and be a little satisfied with what you have maybe.. the more one graves the more likely one gets unsatisfied a/o unhappy, I think..

(um, shouldn't this be in either the PPR or the Haven section)

I think that this thread should be moved to The Haven and also Booster, are you feeling okay now?

That's very mean to put all the responsibility on a young lady. You may think you know how much pain you'll cause to your family and friends, and especially this girl. But suicide is far more devestating than someone dying because of natural or environmental causes. People have to leave the house that it was done in or the entire city that it was done in, because it does nothing but causes pain and dysfunction. You think you're dysfunctional now, you should see a family and friends after a suicide. It is not pleasant.

The reason suicide is a sin is because it is selfish to kill yourself. You're not even giving yourself a chance. Asking for forgiveness will not do anything to relieve the karma and punishment you will receive from this major sin. Because the pain you will cause will be massive.

I hope you have rethought your plans and not force this young lady into a relationship with you, if she does not wish to have one. What if she wants to have one with you later? What if she is just as slow as an autie/aspie in absorbing things and needs time to adjust to liking you and the seriousness of a relationship. Living with someone, marrying someone, being in a relationship is a very serious thing. This is like buying a house serious. You need a lot of time and a lot of discussion. Pushing someone through just to save your life is a little selfish and mean!

I have seen friends live together in the same house and because of how they live differently, have destroyed their friendship. That is friendship. It's even more likely with a relationship if the other person finds something about you that they do not like.

so its a "f**k me or I die" scenario?

Bring me back a present.

You're not going anywhere. You're staying right here, with us. I care too much about you, to let you do that. Call the crisis line.

i one thing to point out
and one thing to ask.

suicide unerringly leads straight to hell. God's not going to be browbeat into letting you in. In fact whether you made a fuss would prolly be irrelevant. I'm sure everyone makes a fuss when their day of judgement comes,

secondly, where in the bible does it say you automatically get a partner in heaven?
even in heaven, god wouldn't strip people of their free will, so he wouldn't foist someone on you against their will just to satisfy you. In heaven, you'd prolly have the same trouble as here on earth concerning finding a partner .
& anyways, to my understanding, heaven doesn't grant you your hearts desire. God doesn't turn into a magic genie after you die and say, "okay little billy, what can i poof up for you?"
It's more like an eternal happiness deal. I don't imagine material or sexual gain has much relevance in an immaterial pure spiritual existence.

You don't go to heaven if you kill yourself.

Dude, seriously, this is f'd up right here. I'll admit I've thought of suicide before, Im sure everyone has in a clinical way, but to lay something like that on someone else? Come on, man. Try internet dating. As for heaven? Most likely if there IS an afterlife you'll wind up in hell for something like that. It will not be pleasant, and instead of getting laid, you'll be working an eternity of 16 hour days at the steel mill. That's MY hell anyways...yours will likely suck for you, so good luck with that.

I shouldn't have even fed your desperate plea for attention, but really we all have problems, killing yourself is never the solution.

This is bordering on Darwin Award material.

Killing yourself is gonna drag you down to hell. If it's anything god hates more than people breaking his rules, it throwing away something he gave you call a "life." You just need to put more purpose into it is all...

sounds like a plan

I've given this some thought and you'll be glad to know that I'm not going to kill myself (or use it as a treat) as it is wrong. Case closed!

However there is just one thing that I don't agree with.....

Sure the Bible says nothing about getting a parnter in Heaven (and seemingly tells us that the amswer is 'no' but that is only what it APPERS to say) But then it is silent on many things regarding God and the afterlife....

A conmon mistake that many people make about Heaven is that you can't/don't get married or have sex there. That I'll say is wrong and I know this as I'm a fan of the works of Emanual Swedenborg which I recomened to anyone who is into this kind of stuff.

One has to remember that God want's the best for us, the He came up with the whole idea of marriage and that there is a whole lot of truth in the words "It is not right that this man (Adam) should be alone, therefore I shall proivede a sutibule helpmate for him"

Surpose if someone lived a good life, acsepted Christ as his/her savor and then died. However this person wanted to get married but sadly did not get the chance to do so due to no fault of his/her own. Imageine how dissapointed that person would be if God gave the kind of answer that you were giving to my posts!

That said person would eventaly get so upset he/she would have a major meltdown! (anyone can have them)

If you think the devesttion that can be made by the ones that can be had on Earth, then you've not seen the kinds that can be made up there!! !! !!

We will all be like the Angels yes, that is true as we'll all have super bodies and also will be filled with a tremendus love for all of God's cerations.

However we will al have free will, and if one still has free will then we will still have wants and needs and it would be God's moral duty to meet them for as He is able to do anything He likes and that He is all good, it follows that He will 'poof up' whatever your heart desires.

As for the case for how He does it I'm not sure how, but we do know that He can create matter and also life, so if needs be He'll (in my case) simply make me a real hottie! not just to shut me up but to make sure that I'm 100% happy or otherwise it wouldn't be Heaven would it?

She and I have no say in the matter of us getting married as God will comand us to life together and be happy. However as God knows what kind of man would be best for her (and what kind of woman is best for me) all that has happened is that I've chanced apon part of God's will for my life.

It really makes no difference wether or not you are on Heaven or Earth in order to get married or rather live a married life, as they are only two differnet places at the end of the day, nothing more (save the fact that one is better than the other)

In fact I'd go as far as to say the Heaven is the best place to hold a wedding anyway!! !! !

That said God desides who is to marry whom (if that is what they so wish) before they die even if they never meet on Earth as all are living in the sight of God!! !!

What I will do however is tell this girl that I love her and that I need some sort of anwser soon even if it's only something along the lines of "I'll think about it" (if it is "No" then I'll tell her how upset she has made me, but leave out the idea that I was goint to kill myself)

I hope that makes things a lot clearer to you now, as I not only was I getting depressed, but I was getting a little bit impationt about this matter.

Goodbye Till Next Time! (yay)