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20 Dec 2011, 8:56 am

No, but I would bet money that several of the people who created his i-devices in the last 15 years were.

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20 Dec 2011, 9:13 am

no, bill gates is though.

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20 Dec 2011, 10:44 am

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20 Dec 2011, 11:46 am

AlastorX wrote:

Being highly intelligent does not make you socially awkward, the opposite is more often the case. I have a friend who is exceptionally intelligent - he is excellent in math, sports, social and natural sciences and he i extremely successful socially. He has a degree in psychology and told me that high intelligence usually means very good social skills. Opposite is rare.

Define intelligent. From what I have seen what you said is not quite true.

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20 Dec 2011, 2:10 pm

Ganondox wrote:

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Define intelligent. From what I have seen what you said is not quite true.

I agree. Albert Einstein himself is considered one of the most intelligent individuals of Human History and he used to be an introvert.

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20 Dec 2011, 4:40 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Hate to break it to you, he was an extrovert.

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20 Dec 2011, 4:48 pm

aspie48 wrote:

Asp-Z wrote:

His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Hate to break it to you, he was an extrovert.

So what? His manner was far from socially acceptable to start with.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:03 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

aspie48 wrote:

Asp-Z wrote:

His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Hate to break it to you, he was an extrovert.

So what? His manner was far from socially acceptable to start with.

That doesn't make him an aspie.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:06 pm

aspie48 wrote:

Asp-Z wrote:

aspie48 wrote:

Asp-Z wrote:

His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Hate to break it to you, he was an extrovert.

So what? His manner was far from socially acceptable to start with.

That doesn't make him an aspie.

Never said otherwise, I just said his personality traits suggest so.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:29 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Outgoing, well liked, and an effective communicator are not personality traits commonly found in those with AS.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:35 pm

Chronos wrote:

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His personality characteristics sure seem to suggest so, but obviously we have no evidence of any diagnosis.

Outgoing, well liked, and an effective communicator are not personality traits commonly found in those with AS.

The guy was rude and upfront to everyone, he drove his car around without a number plate and parked it in disabled spaces and he scanned the files of personal devices owned by Apple employees when there were leaks. There are also reports of him getting angry and destroying old Apple logos (the multicoloured one) whenever he sees them, among many other things.

He was not well liked by people who knew him, he was known to be very stubborn and generally not nice. He was admired for what he did, and rightly so, but that does not mean he was liked.

Outgoing? How do you know that? Everything I've read suggests he spent a lot of time indoors working on Apple.

Effective communicator, yes, but not a socially acceptable one, and hey, I'm an effective communicator and I have a diagnosis of AS.

Once I've read his official biography, I'm sure I'll be able to give you a lot more supporting evidence of his Aspie traits.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:52 pm

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So he basically acted like the as*hole CEO of a very large, successful company.

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20 Dec 2011, 6:01 pm

Lecks wrote:

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So he basically acted like the as*hole CEO of a very large, successful company.

It shows he has little concern for social rules and little sense of empathy. Many other CEOs also share these characteristics, yes, because Aspies run s**t :wink:

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20 Dec 2011, 6:51 pm

Dennis Ritchie, maybe.

Steve jobs, no.

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20 Dec 2011, 7:12 pm

i'm not buying it. many normal people are as*holes.

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20 Dec 2011, 7:14 pm

aspie48 wrote:

i'm not buying it. many normal people are as*holes.

He wasn't an as*hole, but he certainly didn't conform to social expectations. Mark Zuckerburg is the same, and in fact, after watching The Social Network (which I understand is not 100% accurate, but it's very close to true events), a lot of people told me he came across as Aspie. And he had those same traits.

In fact, if you look a lot of well-known CEOs, they're similar, as pointed out by Lecks.

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