Squirrel hunting championship

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Replace "squirrel" with human, and you can see how absurd it sounds.

This is non-sensical.

The power plant serving my area of the city was one of the first of it's kind, so any animal displacement took place more than a century ago.

I save on energy by not getting my panties in a twist at those who state facts.

I've been seriously-ill before and refused treatments I knew were derived from animal testing, yes.
Replace "animals" with "humans", and maybe you can understand the objection, since you're obsessed with species (one species) as the sole criterion on which ethical consideration should be granted.

Factually untrue,
but there are billions of people.
Let's shoot a couple hundred?

There are humane ways of ridding your house of unwanted animals- to pretend that opposition to killing sentient beings for the sake of convenience (especially when it's not necessary for that, even) is tantamount to Disney-esque idealism is somewhat comical.


Excuse me?


They were there before you were.


I've had both raccoons and mice problems in the house I currently live in. I managed to evict them by not killing any.
So much for your bald declarations.


In any case. Since you really do seem to be unaware that there are ways of living which don't include wanton killing, it's not surprising that you'd react with such defensiveness.

I apologize once more for daring to mention animal experiential capacities.

No need to apologize for something you did not effectively pull off. Try again.

Personally, I don't approve of sex with animals.

Wait.

Oh, hunting. Thought it said something else.

Also, how the hell do you get raccoons in the house?????

I'm seriously questioning your housekeeping abilities about now.

Also, riddle me this. Why is it ok for animals to kill and eat other animals but humans are bad if we do?

If you say it's because we are humans and they are animals, your entire argument is blown.

Why is it ok? Some animals will kill other animals not just to eat, but because it's their territory.

Well, first of all, you seem to operate under the impression that "humans" and "animals" is some sort of dichotomy.
Humans ARE animals.
The only "argument" I've made is to say that non-human animals suffer just as human animals,
and to repeatedly ask why species (that is, belonging to one, as opposed to the other millions) is a relevant criterion on which to award and deny ethical consideration.

When dealing with ethical responsibility, there are two key factors (our legal system reflects this, actually):
ability to recognize harm, IE, ability to discern right from wrong
ability to prevent one's self from inflicting it

Such is why those with mental illness, when accused of a crime, often enter a "not-guilty" plea on those grounds.

To liken an obligate meat-eater with no obvious conception of what does and does not cause harm
to whim-based killing in full knowledge of the effect isn't even apples to oranges...it's apples to unicycles.

You're essentially appealing to the ethics of THOSE WHO HAVE NO ETHICS.

Non-human animals likewise rape and occasionally cannibalize one another- is that justifying for us to do those things?

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Ah, "housekeeping" connotatively doesn't normally extend to any external damage which might enable intelligent critters to get in my attic.

I hope that things go well at the event.

Oh, I'm sure it will. Thank you. I'm sure there will be pictures in th local paper of it. We don't have much news here. My entire point in posting this wasn't to argue about hunting, it was to poke fun at how redneck that concept is. In a lighthearted way. MANY MANY people from town who are attending made a joke about that. Everybody else even laughed too. If nothing else, we can laugh at ourselves.

I do think I will make a few pies for them to give as consolation prizes. Apple or sweet potato or pecan. I'm honestly going to show up in the parking lot that morning at 5, and pay my $20 but in the interest of public safety I will not be wielding any firearms. I will go inside the restaurant with some other ladies and eat breakfast. Then go home, make the pies, and bring them back by 5pm.

The funny part of it to me is, cheerleaders by nature, are kind of prissy and girly from my experience. They usually have fundraisers like car washes (where the ball players wash the cars for you) or bake sales (where their Mom's do the baking) or selling BBQ plates (where their Dads do the bbq'ing). A squirrel hunt is the antithesis of cheerleader. It doesn't even go in the same sentence with cheerleader. That's why it's so dang funny to me. They will probably be there that morning, in their uniforms, do some cheer about shooting small animals, then go back home to straighten their hair again lol. They really are sweet girls though, I know most of them.

It's also about as redneck hunting as you can get other than coon hunting, and that only involves going out in the middle of the night with lights, dogs and beer and let the dogs tree the racoons, then shoot them. When you wake up in the bed of the truck in the morning. Most coon hunters I know are outrageous drunks and it's the only night sport they can get out of the house to do, so they just go out there and drink and turn the dogs loose and sometimes they find racoons. Also, some of those boys tend to give their dogs booze in a dish too, so the dogs do no more than they do. Nobody even eats racoons! They do eat squirrels though. ::shudder:: Most coon hunters just get a license for it to get out of the house and spend the night in the woods. Squirrel hunting is a daytime sport, although kind of juvenile. Yet, some older folks like it.

The rule is you can't shoot the Fox Squirrels. That's those big ones. That's like saying you can't catch the 15 pounders in a bass tourny!

Either way, I'm just making pies and eating breakfast. Eggs and bacon, gravy and biscuits and grits, no squirrel

I had already concluded you have some sort of mood disorder, so you needn't have added that last bit for my benefit.

I was heckled today - again - by some PETA fanatics who were basically telling me I am worse than Hitler for occasionally eating meat. The fact that humans are omnivores seems completely lost on them.

I don't suppose you could coerce said rednecks to organise a 'vegan hunting championship'? And I'm not talking about a championship where you hunt crops of lettuce or something.

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How do they score the squirrel hunting championship? Is it just the quantity of squirrels? or are their creativity points? (I am hoping for creativity points.)

Does the bud light t-shirt say something like "squirrel hunting championship' on the back? If so, how do I get one?

What is that one 90s TV show that had the black guys and one of them had a roadkill pizza that had squirrel? I was looking for it, but I couldn't find it.

Pretty sure vegetarians are still humans.

I sometimes have depression, although that has nothing to do with the fact that some locals are putting on a squirrel hunt. Is a disorder REALLY something to throw in someone's face here though? Really?

Ad hominum attacks don't really help in a debate though.

My post was to CockneyRebel, not you. There is no need to try and change your mind, I don't really care to actually. We are all entitled to our opinions, you to yours and I to mine.

There are reasons that it is legal to hunt animals, but not humans. If you cannot see that, then no amount of explaining will work. It doesn't matter anyway, because as I said before, you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

ValentineWiggin, that was just plain mean. I hope the mods rip you a new one for that.