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16 Feb 2013, 2:32 pm

half Irish, quarter Welsh, quarter English.

The Irish have potentially a lot of Spanish heritage, I do have very dark hair so it's possible in my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

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Early 21st century genetic studies have provided new insights into the origins of Irish and British people. Correspondingly, researchers in the field have suggested that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia (Spain, Portugal and also the Basque region) can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material,[citation needed] having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people.


As there is a similar apparent ancestry with the Welsh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

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In two recently published books, Blood of the Isles, by Brian Sykes and The Origins of the British, by Stephen Oppenheimer, both authors state that according to genetic evidence, most Welsh people, like most Britons, descend from the Iberian Peninsula, as a result of different migrations that took place during the Mesolithic and the Neolithic eras, and which laid the foundations for the present-day populations in the British Isles, indicating an ancient relationship among the populations of Atlantic Europe.[22][23][24] According to Stephen Oppenheimer 96% of lineages in Llangefni in north Wales derive from Iberia. Genetic research on the Y-chromosome has shown that the Welsh, like the Irish, share a large proportion of their ancestry with the Basques of Northern Spain and South Western France, although the Welsh have a greater presumed Neolithic input than both the Irish and the Basques.[25] Genetic marker R1b averages from 83–89% amongst the Welsh.[25][26]


It looks like I must have some roots in Spanish/Basque heritage. Although, really we are all mixed race, apart from some isolated races most people have mixed heritage somewhere in their background.


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16 Feb 2013, 3:01 pm

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Hiii everyone!

I was just curious to how many mixies there are on here!
I myself am triracial, with white (Dutch) black and native american ancestry.
So... what's your heritage/background? I'm very curious. ;)

xxx


Technically speaking I am puerto rica . But my genetic heritage is thus:

My grandfather was half puertorican half Arab my grandmother was from Spain (this is on my father's side) my mother's side is Puerto Rican.

So technically I am 3 parts puertorican with Arabic and Spanish descent and my family name is Milesian in origin, which according to Irish mythology came after the Sidhe after the Sidhe defeated the firborg (sp) to populate Ireland. I think sayin I got Irish roots would be a stretch but def Celtic and Caribbean islander and middle eastern for sure.

I hope this isn't more than you asked for!



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16 Feb 2013, 3:10 pm

I'm half mexican (though you'd never be able to tell it except for my eyes), a quarter irish, an eighth german and an eighth italian!



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16 Feb 2013, 3:42 pm

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half Irish, quarter Welsh, quarter English.

The Irish have potentially a lot of Spanish heritage, I do have very dark hair so it's possible in my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

Quote:
Early 21st century genetic studies have provided new insights into the origins of Irish and British people. Correspondingly, researchers in the field have suggested that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia (Spain, Portugal and also the Basque region) can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material,[citation needed] having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people.


As there is a similar apparent ancestry with the Welsh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

Quote:
In two recently published books, Blood of the Isles, by Brian Sykes and The Origins of the British, by Stephen Oppenheimer, both authors state that according to genetic evidence, most Welsh people, like most Britons, descend from the Iberian Peninsula, as a result of different migrations that took place during the Mesolithic and the Neolithic eras, and which laid the foundations for the present-day populations in the British Isles, indicating an ancient relationship among the populations of Atlantic Europe.[22][23][24] According to Stephen Oppenheimer 96% of lineages in Llangefni in north Wales derive from Iberia. Genetic research on the Y-chromosome has shown that the Welsh, like the Irish, share a large proportion of their ancestry with the Basques of Northern Spain and South Western France, although the Welsh have a greater presumed Neolithic input than both the Irish and the Basques.[25] Genetic marker R1b averages from 83–89% amongst the Welsh.[25][26]


It looks like I must have some roots in Spanish/Basque heritage. Although, really we are all mixed race, apart from some isolated races most people have mixed heritage somewhere in their background.


Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P



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16 Feb 2013, 3:43 pm

Mirror21 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
Hiii everyone!

I was just curious to how many mixies there are on here!
I myself am triracial, with white (Dutch) black and native american ancestry.
So... what's your heritage/background? I'm very curious. ;)

xxx


Technically speaking I am puerto rica . But my genetic heritage is thus:

My grandfather was half puertorican half Arab my grandmother was from Spain (this is on my father's side) my mother's side is Puerto Rican.

So technically I am 3 parts puertorican with Arabic and Spanish descent and my family name is Milesian in origin, which according to Irish mythology came after the Sidhe after the Sidhe defeated the firborg (sp) to populate Ireland. I think sayin I got Irish roots would be a stretch but def Celtic and Caribbean islander and middle eastern for sure.

I hope this isn't more than you asked for!


Wow that's an interesting mix!



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16 Feb 2013, 3:51 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
whirlingmind wrote:
half Irish, quarter Welsh, quarter English.

The Irish have potentially a lot of Spanish heritage, I do have very dark hair so it's possible in my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

Quote:
Early 21st century genetic studies have provided new insights into the origins of Irish and British people. Correspondingly, researchers in the field have suggested that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia (Spain, Portugal and also the Basque region) can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material,[citation needed] having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people.


As there is a similar apparent ancestry with the Welsh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

Quote:
In two recently published books, Blood of the Isles, by Brian Sykes and The Origins of the British, by Stephen Oppenheimer, both authors state that according to genetic evidence, most Welsh people, like most Britons, descend from the Iberian Peninsula, as a result of different migrations that took place during the Mesolithic and the Neolithic eras, and which laid the foundations for the present-day populations in the British Isles, indicating an ancient relationship among the populations of Atlantic Europe.[22][23][24] According to Stephen Oppenheimer 96% of lineages in Llangefni in north Wales derive from Iberia. Genetic research on the Y-chromosome has shown that the Welsh, like the Irish, share a large proportion of their ancestry with the Basques of Northern Spain and South Western France, although the Welsh have a greater presumed Neolithic input than both the Irish and the Basques.[25] Genetic marker R1b averages from 83–89% amongst the Welsh.[25][26]


It looks like I must have some roots in Spanish/Basque heritage. Although, really we are all mixed race, apart from some isolated races most people have mixed heritage somewhere in their background.


Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P


I may be taking the term 'mixed-race' literally here, but I believed it to mean mixed from different nationalities. If the definition is between things like Asian, Caucasian, etc. then I probably technically can't. I would say I consider myself mostly Irish as that's my highest percentage if I had to specify. I've just sent off for a 23andme heritage testing kit so I will know for sure my ancestral heritage soon enough.


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16 Feb 2013, 4:00 pm

Dutch trade family here. Afrikaner/Boer, Indonesian, and Cherokee.

I'm Native American enough that had my grandmother claimed tribal membership, I'd be eligible for benefits, but not Native enough to look the part.
Honestly a part of me wishes my ethnicity was more visible. (I have some non-white features, but not enough to make people notice.) It feels weird having grown up in a Native American community, but being so very pale. As a child I attended Pow Wows, and such, which I assumed everyone did until I went to an extremely white public school. Not to mention I grew up with a mix of native and bahai'i spiritual teachings.

I wish I could feel proud of my Trekboer heritage, but everything I know about them is filled with violence and bigotry.


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16 Feb 2013, 4:02 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
Mirror21 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
Hiii everyone!

I was just curious to how many mixies there are on here!
I myself am triracial, with white (Dutch) black and native american ancestry.
So... what's your heritage/background? I'm very curious. ;)

xxx


Technically speaking I am puerto rica . But my genetic heritage is thus:

My grandfather was half puertorican half Arab my grandmother was from Spain (this is on my father's side) my mother's side is Puerto Rican.

So technically I am 3 parts puertorican with Arabic and Spanish descent and my family name is Milesian in origin, which according to Irish mythology came after the Sidhe after the Sidhe defeated the firborg (sp) to populate Ireland. I think sayin I got Irish roots would be a stretch but def Celtic and Caribbean islander and middle eastern for sure.

I hope this isn't more than you asked for!


Wow that's an interesting mix!


Thanks! Where I live they think I'm French-creole lol



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16 Feb 2013, 4:10 pm

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whirlingmind wrote:
half Irish, quarter Welsh, quarter English.

The Irish have potentially a lot of Spanish heritage, I do have very dark hair so it's possible in my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

Quote:
Early 21st century genetic studies have provided new insights into the origins of Irish and British people. Correspondingly, researchers in the field have suggested that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia (Spain, Portugal and also the Basque region) can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material,[citation needed] having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people.


As there is a similar apparent ancestry with the Welsh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

Quote:
In two recently published books, Blood of the Isles, by Brian Sykes and The Origins of the British, by Stephen Oppenheimer, both authors state that according to genetic evidence, most Welsh people, like most Britons, descend from the Iberian Peninsula, as a result of different migrations that took place during the Mesolithic and the Neolithic eras, and which laid the foundations for the present-day populations in the British Isles, indicating an ancient relationship among the populations of Atlantic Europe.[22][23][24] According to Stephen Oppenheimer 96% of lineages in Llangefni in north Wales derive from Iberia. Genetic research on the Y-chromosome has shown that the Welsh, like the Irish, share a large proportion of their ancestry with the Basques of Northern Spain and South Western France, although the Welsh have a greater presumed Neolithic input than both the Irish and the Basques.[25] Genetic marker R1b averages from 83–89% amongst the Welsh.[25][26]


It looks like I must have some roots in Spanish/Basque heritage. Although, really we are all mixed race, apart from some isolated races most people have mixed heritage somewhere in their background.


Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P


I may be taking the term 'mixed-race' literally here, but I believed it to mean mixed from different nationalities. If the definition is between things like Asian, Caucasian, etc. then I probably technically can't. I would say I consider myself mostly Irish as that's my highest percentage if I had to specify. I've just sent off for a 123andme heritage testing kit so I will know for sure my ancestral heritage soon enough.


You're gonna do that? That's awesome! I really want that to but I don't know how to do that here in the Netherlands



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16 Feb 2013, 4:18 pm

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Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P


I may be taking the term 'mixed-race' literally here, but I believed it to mean mixed from different nationalities. If the definition is between things like Asian, Caucasian, etc. then I probably technically can't. I would say I consider myself mostly Irish as that's my highest percentage if I had to specify. I've just sent off for a 123andme heritage testing kit so I will know for sure my ancestral heritage soon enough.


I would certainly consider a combination of Irish/Spanish/English to likely be 'ethnically mixed'. The division that's traditionally made between a Caucasian, African, and Asian 'race' has long been discarded by the scientific community, as human ethnicity is perceived to be a far more diversified as well as mutable thing. In Europe itself, Celtic and Germanic tribes branched out from one another at some point before the Iron Age (>700 BC in Central Europe) if I'm not mistaken.


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16 Feb 2013, 4:25 pm

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whirlingmind wrote:
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half Irish, quarter Welsh, quarter English.

The Irish have potentially a lot of Spanish heritage, I do have very dark hair so it's possible in my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

Quote:
Early 21st century genetic studies have provided new insights into the origins of Irish and British people. Correspondingly, researchers in the field have suggested that migrations from Prehistoric Iberia (Spain, Portugal and also the Basque region) can be viewed as the primary source for their genetic material,[citation needed] having demonstrated marked similarities with modern representatives of the aforementioned time period in that of the Basque people.


As there is a similar apparent ancestry with the Welsh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

Quote:
In two recently published books, Blood of the Isles, by Brian Sykes and The Origins of the British, by Stephen Oppenheimer, both authors state that according to genetic evidence, most Welsh people, like most Britons, descend from the Iberian Peninsula, as a result of different migrations that took place during the Mesolithic and the Neolithic eras, and which laid the foundations for the present-day populations in the British Isles, indicating an ancient relationship among the populations of Atlantic Europe.[22][23][24] According to Stephen Oppenheimer 96% of lineages in Llangefni in north Wales derive from Iberia. Genetic research on the Y-chromosome has shown that the Welsh, like the Irish, share a large proportion of their ancestry with the Basques of Northern Spain and South Western France, although the Welsh have a greater presumed Neolithic input than both the Irish and the Basques.[25] Genetic marker R1b averages from 83–89% amongst the Welsh.[25][26]


It looks like I must have some roots in Spanish/Basque heritage. Although, really we are all mixed race, apart from some isolated races most people have mixed heritage somewhere in their background.


Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P


I may be taking the term 'mixed-race' literally here, but I believed it to mean mixed from different nationalities. If the definition is between things like Asian, Caucasian, etc. then I probably technically can't. I would say I consider myself mostly Irish as that's my highest percentage if I had to specify. I've just sent off for a 23andme heritage testing kit so I will know for sure my ancestral heritage soon enough.


You're gonna do that? That's awesome! I really want that to but I don't know how to do that here in the Netherlands


You can! https://www.23andme.com/


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16 Feb 2013, 4:32 pm

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Yeah, i guess that's true. so you consider yourself mixed-race, even though traditionally irish, welsh, spanish and english are all of the caucasian race? :P


I may be taking the term 'mixed-race' literally here, but I believed it to mean mixed from different nationalities. If the definition is between things like Asian, Caucasian, etc. then I probably technically can't. I would say I consider myself mostly Irish as that's my highest percentage if I had to specify. I've just sent off for a 123andme heritage testing kit so I will know for sure my ancestral heritage soon enough.


I would certainly consider a combination of Irish/Spanish/English to likely be 'ethnically mixed'. The division that's traditionally made between a Caucasian, African, and Asian 'race' has long been discarded by the scientific community, as human ethnicity is perceived to be a far more diversified as well as mutable thing. In Europe itself, Celtic and Germanic tribes branched out from one another at some point before the Iron Age (>700 BC in Central Europe) if I'm not mistaken.


Yes, and I've read that white Europeans are apparently descended from Albino African people, that left the black African communities because they were feared/reviled and migrated to more Northern climes so they could tolerate the weather better. http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ ... hina_2.htm


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Wow never thought it was that expensive. Although here in the Netherlands they are even more expensive: 350 euro's at least. Just sought it out



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16 Feb 2013, 5:03 pm

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Quarter black, half Norwegian, quarter a bajillion other races (mostly caucasian ones). I don't look black/mixed at all, but my sister does.


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Mostly Irish and Welsh but 1/8th Blackfoot Indian!


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