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27 Jan 2015, 2:01 pm

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Toyota Tarago/Estima. A workmate has one with almost 400,000km on it. There's plenty around with 250,000km+ for a reason (they're bulletproof). You could fit a whole mattress in the back with all the rear seats down. I dunno if it fulfills your fuel requirements though.


We don't get those model names here, but they may be the same vans. We get the Toyota Sienna. Before that was the Previa. Some people have imported old Highace's.

The Sienna mini-vans tend to hold their value quite well, so they're a little pricey for high mileage examples.. and they're not exactly great on gas - but no worse than most small SUV's I suppose. Just not sure if I want to go to something around ~20mpg when I make a switch, or if I'll aim for much higher fuel efficiency. Time will tell I guess.


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27 Jan 2015, 2:09 pm

AllTrac Previas can be had with 5 speed manuals...


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27 Jan 2015, 2:23 pm

A 2004 Subaru Legacy? Ok it isn't a head turner, but from a practical perspective you definitely wouldn't have to curl up to sleep in it, and it would fit all your outdoor hobby equipment too.
[http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Subaru/Legacy/Calgary/Alberta/5_20742346_20140617144110360/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=1_15_4 ]
Fuel consumption http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/19661.shtml



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27 Jan 2015, 2:38 pm

Down here, the cheapest option for that motor is the Forester X...


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27 Jan 2015, 2:50 pm

Amity wrote:
A 2004 Subaru Legacy? Ok it isn't a head turner, but from a practical perspective you definitely wouldn't have to curl up to sleep in it, and it would fit all your outdoor hobby equipment too.
[http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Subaru/Legacy/Calgary/Alberta/5_20742346_20140617144110360/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=1_15_4 ]
Fuel consumption http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/19661.shtml


I had a 2000 legacy outback limited.. it was nice w/ heated leather seats and dual power moon roofs, but SO many things went wrong with it over the course of 13 months I owned it that between depreciation and repairs it cost me over $10,000 in just over a year. I don't think I'd ever buy another Subaru after that experience. Also, my neighbour had an older one… head gasket issues. They're pretty nice cars, but reliability isn't so good in my experience.


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27 Jan 2015, 3:01 pm

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it cost me over $10,000 in just over a year

Fair enough, I wouldn't want one again if I had that experience, a frugal relative of mine had a legacy for years and it never gave him any hassle. :)



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27 Jan 2015, 3:24 pm

in my experience the most consistently reliable used vehicles were Toyotas and Hondas. the most consistently UNreliable vehicles were anything German or English or Italian.



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27 Jan 2015, 3:31 pm

The toughest car in history however was a Mercedes Benz 240d; a Greek taxi. 2.87 million miles on one engine. I think a 300TD would be a great wagon for your purposes as well.


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27 Jan 2015, 3:33 pm

a mechanic told me that german cars were generally expensive and built to stay that way.



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27 Jan 2015, 3:50 pm

Owned a few German cars... they can become money pits after 7 years old, cant use regular parts & need 'special everything' to be fixed.



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27 Jan 2015, 4:05 pm

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29 Jan 2015, 8:35 am

The only Euro I'd ever dream of buying is an A45 AMG.



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29 Jan 2015, 9:43 am

I had 2 NG body Saab turbos. Utterly bombproof, my 9-3 survived almost 3 feet of floodwater and remained just as fast. 30mpg, ~200hp and cheaper than most civics! Incredibly comfy & safe too.


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29 Jan 2015, 10:17 am

Not sure if you got these across the pond but Citroen Berlingo would be my 2 cents.

Had one that did 250.000 miles before something crucial went that cost too much to replace.
Good on fuel, the diesel version anyway, but hopeless for acceleration and not a car for someone that likes speed but mine was the older version (late 1990's) and the newer versions have improved but are dearer.
Here in Europe they keep their value reasonably well and you see loads of them in Belgium and NL.
With the back seats down it would carry most furniture and most parts were interchangeable with the Peugot Partner.

Here's a wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3% ... production



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29 Jan 2015, 1:16 pm

We don't get Citroens or Peugots.


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29 Jan 2015, 2:32 pm

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Compact MPVs remain predominantly a European phenomenon, although they are also built and sold in many Latin American and Asian markets. Some compact MPVs are currently available in the United States and Canada, including the Mazda5,[4] Dodge Journey (Fiat Freemont), and Kia Rondo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_MPV

The Berlingo is available in Mexico.