Hunting is Stupid

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I personally would find no enjoyment in hunting; I don't have the instinct for it, I suppose. I don't think it's wrong, or unethical, however. I'd still rather be a pescetarian.

What did I just read here?

Is this kinda along the lines of "if you treat an animal that way just think about how you would treat a human" peta group saying?

God when are people going to start realizing that humans aren't animals, I am all against animal cruelty at the end of the day but peta causes people to think like this. To place animals on the same level as humans, next up on the agenda, cannibalism.

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PETA goes overboard and pushes people away wth their insanity. I am definitely for animal rights. But the way they do things only pisses people off. They don't seem to want to find a middle ground in order to improve conditions for animals; everything has to be exactly their way and they won't compromise.

Being willing to compromise in order to get laws passed would do much more than going around behaving as if those who aren't vegans are evil. Even vegetarianism isn't good enough; you've got to be 100% vegan for them to find you acceptable.

I am one of those people who views humans as animals. But, we are animals who have evolved to eat other animals. It's part of our natural diet. To suggest that those who eat meat are somehow "bad" for eating a natural diet is unfair, in my opinion. I have no problem with people being vegans or vegetarians, if that's what they have chosen. Personally I'd be a "pescetarian" (avoiding meat and poultry, but eating seafood, eggs, and dairy), but I do currently eat meat.

Veganism isn't usually healthy, anyway. There are no cultures that ate a vegan diet until recently. Many nutrients are not very easily absorbed from plant foods, and vitamin B12 can only be obtained through animal products or supplements that include B12 produced by bacteria. Without many special foods, vegans would be very unhealthy, and it would not work at all in a society less technologically advanced.

I've been trying to move towards an entirely pescetarian diet or at least been trying to not consume mammals anyways. I don't think I'll ever stop eating birds though, as they're technically reptiles.

I was entirely pescetarian for over a decade. But I gave up, as those in my house are not, and I couldn't make separate food all the time. Too time-consuming and mentally exhausting. I may try again in a few years.

nothing annoys me more than people who think they're morally superior just because they don't eat meat, but at the same time think about this:

why not treat "others" the same way you want to be treated?
do u want someone to hunt and eat you just because they are stronger than you?
if animals already feel "fear and pain", why we do that to them when we know very well how painful "fear and pain" can be.

human were not meant/designed to eat meat. look at lion's teeth and our teeth

and what's more important is that we people won't really die if we stop eating other poor creatures
thank you very much. don't quote me i am not judging anyone do whatever u want to it's just my opinion

Humans were designed to eat meat. There have been many, many, many studies on the diets of humans and ancient hominids. We have eaten meat since before we were homo sapiens. Our teeth do not need to look like lions' teeth. We aren't closely related to lions at all, why would our teeth look the same? Our bodies evolved to eat meat, and are designed to do so. We are omnivores, and have been for millions of years (before we were even this modern human species).

I have no idea where you are getting your information, but it's 100% wrong and not based on scientific facts. As someone who has spent a lot of time studying nutrition, human biology, and anthropology, I know what I'm talking about.

i didn't say " meat is bad for us", i only meant that "unlike lions" we can live without eating meat. look at lions teeth? they are not designed to eat vegetables.

i wanted to say that we humans have the choice not to hurt/eat other poor animals BUT WE EAT THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY TASTE YUMMY.



i wonder why u ignored the fear and pain thing.

sorry for my garbage english

That's actually not true. We actually absorb certain nutrients better from animal products. We cannot get vitamin b12 without animal products or supplements. Iron is much more easily absorbed from animal foods than plant foods. Protein from animal products is more complete than protein from plants. The protein is also found in much higher concentrations in animal products.

There are many groups of people whose children suffer from kwashiorkor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor , which is caused by lack of sufficient protein, because they can only afford to eat plant foods without enough protein content. Access to animal products is rare in those areas because of poverty.

We evolved as omnivores. We work best when eating both animal and plant foods. Even just eating dairy and eggs is often enough.

I do care about the suffering of animals, but particularly mammals and birds, which are usually capable of higher thinking and feeling of emotions. I don't care as much for the suffering of fish, and other creatures that have less advanced brain functions.

We are animals and we cannot ignore that fact. Animals, including humans, will always suffer. Suffering is part of life. Animals will eat other animals and creatures no matter what. And if the food chain is thrown off by eliminating predation, for instance, then the prey animals will suffer because they will continue to reproduce, but their numbers will not be reduced by predators. So there will be overpopulation, which will result in deaths by starvation and disease.

This is the natural way of things. We are not living in the garden of Eden, this is real life, and real life is brutal.

I don't actually like the taste of meat or poultry, myself. I prefer vegetables and seafood.

I hunt. I have never hunted for fun. I hunt for meat. I love animals. They are delicious. This message is sponsored by PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals!

"again", where did i say that animal products are bad and not healthy for us? everybody already knows about the vegetarian diet and B12 deficiency thing. it's not a big deal. and many vegetarians actually eat eggs and dairy product. no problem. i only meant if we stopped eating meat now, we r not going to die. on a side note, actually there is a link between red meat/animal protein and osteoporosis, but it's not worth mentioning right now.

Never said that you did. What I'm actually saying is that it's usually healthier to eat at least some meat. And animal products of some kind are absolutely necessary for optimal health.

The study that I have just read (from 1996) linked "high-consumption" of red meat along with low consumption of vegetables to osteoporosis. Not just the consumption of red meat in general. http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

This study:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/73/1/118.full also mentions a high ratio of animal to vegetable protein as the risk factor, not simply the consumption of animal protein itself.

Here's a study:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1359/jbmr.2000.15.12.2504/full that does not link higher consumption of animal protein to bone loss in the elderly.

Here's a quote from another study:


http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/133/4/1020.full

Lots of people don't eat meat are are perfectly okay, there are things that you need to watch out for being deficient in but that's where supplementation and/or things like eggs come in. I do know that there are several studies that show that there are indeed benefits to a plant based diet over a diet with meat. I'm not saying that meat is bad for you, I know that there are lot of nutrients in it, there are pros and cons to each. But to say that we need to eat meat I absolutely do not believe in the slightest. We are omnivorous and there is an enormous amount of knowledge on how to properly maintain ourselves nutritionally even if we are not consuming all of the needed nutrients though food. One last point, most people have a pretty sh***y diet anyway (at least here) and that throws the "meat has nutrition" thing out the window.

Also I'm not trying to force my morals on other people or take the moral high ground. However I do feel that hunting and eating meat would go against my personal morals, and that I do believe that it is cruel to eat meat. Honestly the biggest area where I think meat is needed is for pets that can only eat meat, there is no way around that other than not having them.

Also, the thing about the imbalance between predators and prey and how there aren't always enough predators to kill off excess prey animals. I have one thing to say about that: how do you think predator population got low in the first place?!

PS, kudos to the Jainism person, that's cool to see a Jain here, you never see Jains ever!

btw AsahiPto17, i wasn't talking about you when i said this:

i decided to make it the first sentence to make it clear that i am not trying to judge people who eat meat.