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I believe you, Sandpoint, I believe you about how this has been turned right around on you when you were the one legitimately having your peace disturbed.

I just hope they consider your letter carefully. Is there any way you can seek legal counsel over this? I know you're broke but are there any pro bono possibilities you could track down?

I think you need legal help. There are people willing to do pro bono work.

Well, this evening when we arrived back home to the unit building, we noted that the problem vehicle (the obnoxious teens) were HERE.... We filmed ourselves getting out of the vehicle, and going up stairs peacefully (we have been filming ourselves a lot for legal defense in case we are blamed for something we didn't do around a verifiable time-frame - video would be proof) ... So coming up to our unit went fine.. So I attached an extra phone to the peephole, powered it with constant USB power, and started to record away... Guess what I catch? These teens of whom acted the way they did on the stairs this past Dec 11th, came out, being somewhat obnoxious..again... I caught one of them getting up on the railing, sliding down, and plopping himself down onto the second level floor stairwell platform(he could've fell through the stairwell opening) .... Then as they come up again a little later on, lifting themselves up (same male individual), and letting go, thus jumping down onto the stairs...... These actions are in clear violation of the lease rules (tenants are responsible for their guests behaviors/actions). It strictly states no boisterous behaviors in the common areas, and states the stairwell 1st....... Though this wasn't exactly the same purposeful stomping and jumping as had happened last time, it was instead other unsafe and noisy horseplay. And they full well KNOW that it is loud as hell in the units when you jump down onto the stairs/platforms. We are the third floor up... They ONLY do this on our set of stairs, which are just outside our doorway........ I will keep building my evidence.....

We are keeping that in mind, and building up our files to help... We keep track of everything in great orderly fashion. We may be different than other people (our conditions) but we are very organized people.

A shame the world has to be this way..... My family and I are considerate, loving and peaceful... Our past neighbors could tell you how great it was to live next to us..

It doesn't matter how old I get and how many years pass by, somehow I never quite manage to come to terms with the genuine bits of unfairness life is littered with, big, small and in-between. How bad things happen to good people, rule followers still manage to get screwed by some twist, rule breakers get away with it, and on and on.

I'm so sorry all this is happening to you. It's excellent that you are keeping records on everything involved with all this.

I find it hard to wrap my mind around as well .. But, I have to tell myself that sometimes people are just plain selfish and ugly.

Well, this AM my cam caught the younger tenant running hard up and down the stairs (Which sounds like chaos in our unit) .. Of course we said nothing to the individual... Just heaped the file onto the pile.... But, the lease specifically mentions that even running on the stairs is a violation. But I suppose that it's ok for some right? ...
Our vids are only going to prove more and more the behaviors that have been denied, and that the situation being flipped around onto us is highly wrong.......

Today is the third day... Of course the main office is closed today.. But we have already delivered our answer in three methods.. Two methods (fax and email) have time stamps... And we have obviously said nothing to anyone, and have been quiet as mice (as always) in our unit when we have been here...

Caught a couple more examples for the files... We shall see how tomorrow goes (main office opens, management returns) ..

If we have "complied" according to them, then we will still have a home (for the time) .. But I no longer trust anyone here... And I WILL Still be gathering evidence of the favoritism/purposeful lease violations by the neighbors... And... The neighbor below and off to the side of whom works here at the complex, he has been about 10 times louder than we've ever heard since we've moved in... He has 2 boys about 7-8 of age, and they just tear up the stairs (Not ours, but the second level) ... But I guess that's ok, and not a violation of lease rules at all. And def' not disturbing the peace either...... Huge biased/favoritism going on here with a touch of retaliation.... My daughter, and my family do not deserve this at all. We've always been excellent A++ tenants where ever we've rented. Always neighborly, always kind.
And for someone to selfishly put at risk everything like our renters history, credit, a roof over our heads, and most importantly my daughters health and well being...is..Well, no words..... Just some anger and heartache.

Some of what you said reminds me of college. I have sensitive hearing too. I don't know much of legal matters but I feel for you guys.

Sandpoint, is there an autism advocacy agency you can contact about this? Considering that your family is dealing with autism, this might come under the heading of disability discrimination. You would have some real legal legs to stand on with that situation. Your daughter and yourself both have autism, is that correct? I'm really thinking there must be some entity, some body that advocates for people in this situation.

These other tenants are flat-out violating their own lease agreements regarding noise and stair noise, but also there is now an element of deliberate provocation and bullying of a family with disability. There's nothing about this that is fair.

Yes, both my daughter and I are on the spectrum. My daughter a bit more severe than I, but mainly in the area of communication and comprehension, plus severe sensory issues with certain things like sound..... I am far more functional in life comparatively.. But loud/sudden sounds get to us both very easily. What was being done on purpose that day was absolutely terrible.. It is likened to torture when you have sensory issues =(

Being that the holiday season is winding down, we are starting to hear back from some places that we contacted earlier on (local advocacy group included).. One attorney says that they (management) do not have a leg to stand on to evict us, and that they are indeed using intimidation techniques on a situation that we were under full rights of. Another wants us to come in for a meeting either later this week or next Monday. Says to bring all materials we have (recordings too), and he will have a go at it to see what's up, but it does pique his interest. So far we have not heard from the management office yet, but we are waiting....... They are shady rats so I am sure that we can expect them to try and pull anything that they can to belittle/intimidate us.
My anxiety (especially at night) has increased 10-fold since all of this began.. This kind of stress does crazy things to the mind and body.. Also lost 12 lbs since the start of December!

I'm very glad to hear that that advocacy group thinks the managers don't have a leg to stand on -- this is a good thing to hear an entity like that say.

I don't want to stress you further, but just regarding going forward into these next few days when the management gets back to their office after the Holidays -- have someone stay at home during these coming days while things are still being sorted out.

I'm not saying the following will happen, but it's just that in one place I lived, we would regularly see that the managers would often access an apartment when nobody was home, and move all their stuff out onto the grass verge and change the locks, usually in the case of a three day notice like the one you were issued.

Just watch out over these next few days until things are formally resolved and you know for sure they will rescind that notice.

Fortunately, it is illegal to "Self help" evict (Enter Apt, change locks, etc) in Idaho. If they even try such a thing, especially in this case, they would be in deep. When we turned in our answer to the notice, our rent check was in there as well. I will be watching to see if it draws. By law, if it draws, we automatically have at least another month. Even if we are not evicted, that gives us time to possibly prepare/plan something. But the lawyer was fairly certain that they have no LEGAL ground to do these things to us... That we were indeed within our legal rights to call the police, especially on a weekend, to intercede and mediate the issue we were having that day (and that one weekend in the middle of the night)

I'm glad to hear that this form of removing a tenant is illegal in your state, Sandpoint -- apparently is wasn't in my former state, ugh!

It was awful to see it happen to people. I even saw other tenants go and steal the stuff once it was out on the grass.

Very glad this won't be another thing to worry about. I am hoping everything gets resolved for you; I just cannot stand it when the people doing no wrong get in trouble anyway, as often happens in the world.

I agree, it is absolutely insane. I think what upsets me the very most out of all of it is how it's an attack on my daughters home, and her right to peace within it. We are the best neighbors one could have.. Quiet, polite, helpful, and always considerate... This kind of treatment has been very upsetting, and challenging.. Sometimes I think Serenity doesn't notice, but then I am led to honestly believe that she does in her own ways... Her behaviors have changed this month some.. She gets really panicked out of no where at random times, then she seems fine (plus calling herself "a bad bad person" those few times last week).. But she wants to be right there with you in those panicked times, which her mother and I will always be.. She deserves far better than this chaos, that's for sure....

Yes, it's terrible that a child is caught up in all this. It's bad enough for you as an adult with autism, as you too deserve to have a peaceful existence as is supposed to be protected by these lease agreements.

But for a child with autism to be subjected to this, is beyond the pale. You must get these other people involved with this, the ones you have contacted. It sounds as though they are onboard. This is so important. I feel so bad for your sweet daughter.

Someone has a thread going about forming our own autism friendly country on an island. I wish we could all pack our bags and live there!

In addition to the recordings you are making, can you take decibel measurements of how loud things are? That would give an objective "loudness" measurement.

There are free apps for it.

It's technically called "amplitude." Think of the "amplifier."