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BettaPonic
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18 Mar 2017, 11:22 pm

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Abortion is murder, more times than not. That is something that will stay with you until the day you die. If you are diligent then you probably won't get pregnant, if you do after all that and your life isn't in danger then you should do the right thing and carry the baby to term.

Sorry to split hairs, but murder is the unlawful killing of one human being by another. In the United States (sorry that's where I am) abortion is legal. What kind of life would that baby live? In the U.S. the foster care system is broken. Is it better to not be born than born to suffering? Many people haven't been taught to be careful and abortion is their only shot, especially for young people. If they have a baby they have no future. What if the fetus is deformed?



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18 Mar 2017, 11:33 pm

BettaPonic wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Abortion is murder, more times than not. That is something that will stay with you until the day you die. If you are diligent then you probably won't get pregnant, if you do after all that and your life isn't in danger then you should do the right thing and carry the baby to term.

Sorry to split hairs, but murder is the unlawful killing of one human being by another. In the United States (sorry that's where I am) abortion is legal. What kind of life would that baby live? In the U.S. the foster care system is broken. Is it better to not be born than born to suffering? Many people haven't been taught to be careful and abortion is their only shot, especially for young people. If they have a baby they have no future. What if the fetus is deformed?

There are higher laws, the right to life is fundamental and cannot be legislated. "They're better off dead" is one of the most disgusting pro-abortion arguments one can make, how would you feel if an outside observer judged the worthwhileness of your life? I do not support eugenics in any form, abortion on demand is one of the greatest evils in human history with over 50 million dead since 1972.



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18 Mar 2017, 11:48 pm

Jacoby wrote:
BettaPonic wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Abortion is murder, more times than not. That is something that will stay with you until the day you die. If you are diligent then you probably won't get pregnant, if you do after all that and your life isn't in danger then you should do the right thing and carry the baby to term.

Sorry to split hairs, but murder is the unlawful killing of one human being by another. In the United States (sorry that's where I am) abortion is legal. What kind of life would that baby live? In the U.S. the foster care system is broken. Is it better to not be born than born to suffering? Many people haven't been taught to be careful and abortion is their only shot, especially for young people. If they have a baby they have no future. What if the fetus is deformed?

There are higher laws, the right to life is fundamental and cannot be legislated. "They're better off dead" is one of the most disgusting pro-abortion arguments one can make, how would you feel if an outside observer judged the worthwhileness of your life? I do not support eugenics in any form, abortion on demand is one of the greatest evils in human history with over 50 million dead since 1972.

If I lacked a functioning brain then I would not care if someone killed me. In need the United States we have no higher laws than the government. Not letting a baby be born because it has Down Syndrome or would not survive is not wrong to me. It would cause more suffering for it to born. I disagree that abortion is one of the worst things in human history. To me killing sentient humans is worse than killing non sentient humans. I consider factory farms worse than abortion.



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18 Mar 2017, 11:54 pm

We have rights endowed to us by our creator, our rights are not granted to us by the government and they do not have to ability to take away these rights. This is the basis of our constitution, it is gross misinterpretation by an activist court that invented to the right to murder your child. You say somebody's life is not worth living, many people do not think autistic lives are worth living so it should be very easy to see where this slippery slope can lead to.



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19 Mar 2017, 12:07 am

Jacoby wrote:
We have rights endowed to us by our creator, our rights are not granted to us by the government and they do not have to ability to take away these rights. This is the basis of our constitution, it is gross misinterpretation by an activist court that invented to the right to murder your child. You say somebody's life is not worth living, many people do not think autistic lives are worth living so it should be very easy to see where this slippery slope can lead to.

I am saying that a fetus cannot think and killing it creates no suffering. It could never process pain or it's own existence. The government can take rights away. We used to have the rights to own slaves, or kill Indians. In the U.S. a creator in theory plays no part in our rights.



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19 Mar 2017, 1:56 am

When a fetus is aborted early enough, then I don't quite see it the same way as I'd see taking a human life. Like, if someone used a morning after pill, at that point they're basically just killing a group of cells that has no cognitive capacity, and therefore no sentience.


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