"I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free"

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13 Jun 2018, 8:41 pm

Canada is the Axis of Evil. And a brutal dictatorship.

That's why we need our bosom buddies, the freedom loving North Koreans, to help protect us from the Canadian menace!

Canada has already seduced America's youth into blindly marching in lockstep behind Justin Beiber!



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13 Jun 2018, 8:51 pm

NewTime wrote:
It should be "I'm proud to be in America where at least I know I'm free".


I agree somewhat. You could also say that Americans by the fact that they are Americans are in America. You could also say that using American to refer to citizens of the United States is incorrect because of the countries of Central and South America not being a part of the United States nor Canada. Also it's a song so song freedoms.

The Human Freedom Index of 2017 reports That the United States ranks 17th in freedoms. Of course this could be questioned but I think it's considered a pretty good try.
Human Freedom Index

1 Switzerland
2 Hong Kong
3 New Zealand
4 Ireland
5 Australia
6 Finland
7 Norway
8 Denmark
9 Netherlands
10 United Kingdom
11 Canada
12 Austria
13 Sweden
14 Estonia
15 Luxembourg
16 Germany
17 United States
18 Taiwan
18 Singapore
18 Lithuania


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13 Jun 2018, 8:54 pm

"If tomorrow all the things were gone
"I worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife...
"the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that..."

The flag or the freedom for which it stands?

"...away."

In any case, first some related points to ponder:

"If one holds to the worldview shared by the founders of the U.S., freedom is the God-given right of all men...
"Governments [and their warriors] don't grant freedoms. By nature they regulate and restrict them." (emphasis added)
https://www.quora.com/Is-freedom-a-right-or-privilege

"In the [Government's] eyes, [freedom] is a privilege, for they are able to regulate freedom."
http://www.debate.org/debates/Is-freedom-a-right/1/

I think it would be interesting to hear what Greenwood might have to say about his early-90s thoughts behind that song. Nevertheless, and with or without being flag-wavers: Let us all stand for the freedom of all.


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13 Jun 2018, 8:59 pm

NewTime wrote:
It should be "I'm proud to be in America where at least I know I'm free".

BTW, it's just a song. Most song lyrics do not adhere to proper grammar very well.

Sometimes you just have to fit the words you can, into the spaces where you can, and hope that people understand what you mean.

Every time I see this thread, that song gets back into my head @_@


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14 Jun 2018, 12:15 am

AnneOleson wrote:
glebel1 wrote:
As far as Canadians being as free as Americans goes, in Canada there is no freedom of speech nor is there freedom of the press.

Canada’s Charter of Rights guarantees freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

Canada has these wonderful things called Human Rights Tribunals where people don't have the right to face their accusers and can't even comment on the decisions of these kangaroo courts. This is not freedom.


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