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17 Jul 2019, 11:43 am

In the area I live there has been quite a lot of those tallented people who work on various projects of a scientific nature, as this area used to have a rather large amunitions factory which hit peak production in WW2 and after that they had the massive job of decomissioning all the unused shells from the war. The wife of one such scientist in those days told my Mum that the moon landings were an impossibility and she didn't believe one bit of what was on the television in those days when it happed. I don't think she was allowed to say her reasons for this. It just stuck in my Mums mind. My Mum, just assumed she was a little odd to have said such a thing, but looking back, was she?
I can certainly see patterns which point to something a little dodgy... Like someone was bending the truth somewhere. I don't look at body language, but I can tell through the many things that don't add up. For example, when questioned about the lack if dust on the moons surface as we have a calculation of how much dust hits the moon each year, replies from scientists just did not add up. Replies like "Because of the spinning of the moon", which, if anyone has studied the moon will find that it does not spin... I know that. I've been looking at it for over 40 years and I have only ever seen the one side. Yes, this one side has some extra crators in it which, for them to be on this side of the moon, look very much like they came from missiles from the earth rather then objects flying around space, but apart from that, the moon has never turned so I can see the other side of it.

The debate about the moon is a fascinating subject in itself when one sees it from both sides of the equasion, and no doubt will continue for a while. The gathering of all information and sifting through both sides is quite a fun thing to do, and certainly gets the mind thinking! And this is what I like about questions like this. The information gathering and thouhht behind examining the evidence on both sides is far more fun then the conclusion.



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17 Jul 2019, 12:05 pm

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Really....the bottom line is that no one expressed skepticism at the veracity of the "claims" of the Moon landing back in 1969.

Not the Soviet Russians. Not the Red Chinese. If there was skepticism out there, it would have been inserted into their propaganda.


That's anecdotal evidence, not proof. :P



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17 Jul 2019, 12:06 pm

There's a very good reason why the Russians and the Chinese would have perpetuated the "hoax" theory----but no "hoax theory" emanated from those countries.

Why should they seek to protect the United States?

Nothing was speculated about a "hoax" IN THE NEWS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD at that time.



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17 Jul 2019, 12:12 pm

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17 Jul 2019, 12:17 pm

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There's a very good reason why the Russians and the Chinese would have perpetuated the "hoax" theory----but no "hoax theory" emanated from those countries.

Why should they seek to protect the United States?

Nothing was speculated about a "hoax" IN THE NEWS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD at that time.


"Conspiracy theories about the Moon landing have been around for years. Decades, in fact.

The 1974 self-published book We Never Went to the Moon by Bill Kaysing was the first lengthy discussion on the topic committed to paper.
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https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/how-moo ... 1835483705



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17 Jul 2019, 12:39 pm

That’s 5 years after the Moon shot...



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17 Jul 2019, 12:40 pm

Lack of dust? What dust there is up there is apparently a huge headache. It's rough and fine and gets into everything.



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17 Jul 2019, 12:56 pm

Another one

What is it with people saying, "why haven't we gone back if it's possible?" Astronauts have, and left a load of junk behind them. There were six crewed U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972.

Experiments show that the dust builds up at 1milimeter per 1000 years.



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17 Jul 2019, 1:09 pm

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In the area I live there has been quite a lot of those tallented people who work on various projects of a scientific nature, as this area used to have a rather large amunitions factory which hit peak production in WW2 and after that they had the massive job of decomissioning all the unused shells from the war. The wife of one such scientist in those days told my Mum that the moon landings were an impossibility and she didn't believe one bit of what was on the television in those days when it happed. I don't think she was allowed to say her reasons for this. It just stuck in my Mums mind. My Mum, just assumed she was a little odd to have said such a thing, but looking back, was she?
I can certainly see patterns which point to something a little dodgy... Like someone was bending the truth somewhere. I don't look at body language, but I can tell through the many things that don't add up. For example, when questioned about the lack if dust on the moons surface as we have a calculation of how much dust hits the moon each year, replies from scientists just did not add up. Replies like "Because of the spinning of the moon", which, if anyone has studied the moon will find that it does not spin... I know that. I've been looking at it for over 40 years and I have only ever seen the one side. Yes, this one side has some extra crators in it which, for them to be on this side of the moon, look very much like they came from missiles from the earth rather then objects flying around space, but apart from that, the moon has never turned so I can see the other side of it.

The debate about the moon is a fascinating subject in itself when one sees it from both sides of the equasion, and no doubt will continue for a while. The gathering of all information and sifting through both sides is quite a fun thing to do, and certainly gets the mind thinking! And this is what I like about questions like this. The information gathering and thouhht behind examining the evidence on both sides is far more fun then the conclusion.


WTF are you talking about?

Are you saying that you see new spots on the moon that weren't there before?

The moon is 2000 miles wide.

For you, an observer on the earth, with no telescope, to see a dark spot on the moon that wasn't there before, that spot would have to be maybe five percent as wide as the moon. So that spot would have to be a circle 100 miles wide. Or a seven thousand square miles. A man made craft that would leave enough crash debris to cover seven thousand square miles (three quarters the size of New Jersey) would have to be a huge craft indeed!



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17 Jul 2019, 1:39 pm

Going to go rogue here, and admit I find the non-moon-landing conspiracy theories compelling....

There are more than a few odd things that have gone on in the space industry through the years, that have not been adequately explained imo. :skull:


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17 Jul 2019, 1:49 pm

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Going to go rogue here, and admit I find the non-moon-landing conspiracy theories compelling....

There are more than a few odd things that have gone on in the space industry through the years, that have not been adequately explained imo. :skull:


Such as...?



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17 Jul 2019, 1:52 pm

Why would the Soviet Russians and the Chinese seek to protect the United States through cooperating with their "conspiracy"?



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17 Jul 2019, 1:57 pm

Every governmental agency does "odd things." How does that translate into a "Moon landing conspiracy"?



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17 Jul 2019, 4:36 pm

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MissMary227 wrote:
Going to go rogue here, and admit I find the non-moon-landing conspiracy theories compelling....

There are more than a few odd things that have gone on in the space industry through the years, that have not been adequately explained imo. :skull:


Such as...?


Mysterious death(s) of some astronauts. I would have to google names to recall it now, but I delved into it many years ago and found it intriguing.


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17 Jul 2019, 4:49 pm

Actually, we didn't land on the moon. We liberated the moon. Mars too.

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17 Jul 2019, 4:58 pm

Darmok wrote:
Actually, we didn't land on the moon. We liberated the moon. Mars too.

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:lol: I don't get it really, but it looks funny lol.


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