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05 Oct 2019, 8:06 am

One of the problems that the homeless face is violence. This is pointed out by an article this morning.

Four homeless men are dead, another seriously injured, after police say they were all beaten in their sleep by a man wielding a large metal object in New York City early Saturday morning.

Police received a 911 call at around 1:50 a.m. over reports of a man with “severe trauma to the head” discovered on Bowery Street, The New York Times reported citing an NYPD spokesperson.

Not long after, a second man was found with similar head injuries. He was immediately transported to the hospital. Three additional men were found dead on Broadway and East Broadway.

A 24-year-old man was taken into custody in connection with the attack, Lt. Thomas Antonetti told the Times. He said police also found a 3-foot-long metal object that resembled a construction stud.

The suspect is also believed to be homeless, the New York Post reported.


Source: 4 homeless men in NYC's Chinatown fatally beaten in their sleep, suspect in custody: reports


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05 Oct 2019, 8:53 am

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One of the problems that the homeless face is violence. This is pointed out by an article this morning. Four homeless men are dead, another seriously injured, after police say they were all beaten in their sleep by a man wielding a large metal object in New York City early Saturday morning. Police received a 911 call at around 1:50 a.m. over reports of a man with “severe trauma to the head” discovered on Bowery Street, The New York Times reported citing an NYPD spokesperson. Not long after, a second man was found with similar head injuries. He was immediately transported to the hospital. Three additional men were found dead on Broadway and East Broadway. A 24-year-old man was taken into custody in connection with the attack, Lt. Thomas Antonetti told the Times. He said police also found a 3-foot-long metal object that resembled a construction stud. The suspect is also believed to be homeless, the New York Post reported.

Source: 4 homeless men in NYC's Chinatown fatally beaten in their sleep, suspect in custody: reports

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05 Oct 2019, 8:55 am

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In many cases, the houses are fixer uppers and need some work. But many sit idle for years. Some towns consider them a blight and request grants to tear them down.

that makes me wanna cry. :( they were constructed with high hopes, and deserved a little love. or a little more love. if i was rich, lemme tell ya, i would go there and fix every one of those houses up and take care of them. and if i could find appropriate residents for them, i would direct them there.



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05 Oct 2019, 8:40 pm

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jimmy m wrote:
In many cases, the houses are fixer uppers and need some work. But many sit idle for years. Some towns consider them a blight and request grants to tear them down.

that makes me wanna cry. :( they were constructed with high hopes, and deserved a little love. or a little more love. if i was rich, lemme tell ya, i would go there and fix every one of those houses up and take care of them. and if i could find appropriate residents for them, i would direct them there.


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05 Oct 2019, 9:05 pm

My heart goes out to the genuinely homeless ,sorry to say everyone of the four homeless have tried to help over the years has cost me dearly .all n t from what could surmise . Ingenuity is not exclusive,
If it rains little effort to get under something . Might have to forage for food . Have seen serious inequities in my life . And felt bad for it but been in situations where life has eluded me. And its mechanisms . But if everything was free? Am sorry but seen so many years of this and peoples making choices of conveinence . Makes you wonder ..And a defo not saying some peeps have genuine need and should be aided .


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05 Oct 2019, 10:30 pm

there is nothing that makes one feel as unattached, as defective, as bereft, as hopeless, as homelessness. it is like a prison without walls, a steel trap for the spirit. everything i've done in life since was as a reaction to my homelessness. it made me stick with a job i was ill-suited for and that slowly killed me.



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13 Nov 2019, 9:10 am

I noticed an article about the pneumonic plague this morning.

Two people were reportedly diagnosed with the highly infectious, potentially fatal pneumonic plague in a hospital in Beijing, Chinese authorities revealed Tuesday. The pneumonic plague is one of three strains, including the septicemic and the bubonic plague, infamous for killing tens of millions of Europeans in the Middle Ages.

Source: 2 patients diagnosed in China with pneumonic plague

This is the variant of the plague that is transmittable from human to human and also one of the most deadly variants. Untreated pneumonic plague has a mortality of nearly 100%. This is a major threat to the homeless and communities with large homeless populations.


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13 Nov 2019, 10:24 am

People in the states generally believe homeless people are completely at fault for their living situation, so I'm not surprised this is happening. :x



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13 Nov 2019, 10:39 am

The cost of living is going up, the government are greedy.

Homelessness seems to be a problem ignored. It's a global issue and even first world countries have a high percentage of homelessness, the council ignore the problem and send people off from one town to another. They close down resources.



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13 Nov 2019, 10:52 am

the "prosperity gospel" which has taken over amuuurican xtianity maintains that the poor are cursed to hell by god, and that to help the poor is to be in league with satan.



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13 Nov 2019, 11:30 am

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People in the states generally believe homeless people are completely at fault for their living situation, so I'm not surprised this is happening.
Having been homeless myself, I can attest that the idea of homeless people being at fault for their state has some merit.

No, I am not saying that all homeless people are always at fault for being homeless; and no, I am not saying that every homeless person is physically or mentally capable of recovering from homelessness, either.

It's just that once homeless (for whatever reason), many otherwise capable homeless people turn to alcohol, drugs, and/or criminal behavior -- all of which can limit their opportunities to return to a more normative lifestyle.

I stayed away from those things, and instead hustled up every legitimate job and saved every bit of cash I could to eventually get myself up and out of poverty and into a rented room in a modern-day commune (a.k.a., a "Cooperative Residence Facility"). From there, it was easy to get full-time employment and work my way into progressively better living (and social) arrangements. Now my wife and I are getting ready to retire, and we won't have to worry about where we're going to live.



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14 Nov 2019, 3:22 am

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Having spent several weeks trying to get help for a homeless person in California I can say that the organizations that are helping the homeless are overwhelmed and running like the Red Queen.
The average, law-abiding, white male homeless person in California has fewer options than women, parolees, the mentally ill, and minorities. Anyone who is a woman (esp. one with children), a minority member, schizophrenic, or recently released from prison (some exceptions here) is automatically considered a 'victim' of homelessness, while a white male who loses his job and can no long pay off his debts will lose his home, his credit rating, and especially his dignity because he will be considered to have brought it all on himself.

What I find most shocking when watching documentaries on American poverty on you tube is the comments section. They seem very judgmental about everyone who's not doing well, particularly if they have children before having got an education AND paying off all dept AND working up to good pay AND buying a home.



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14 Nov 2019, 3:33 am

Fnord wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
People in the states generally believe homeless people are completely at fault for their living situation, so I'm not surprised this is happening.
Having been homeless myself, I can attest that the idea of homeless people being at fault for their state has some merit.

No, I am not saying that all homeless people are always at fault for being homeless; and no, I am not saying that every homeless person is physically or mentally capable of recovering from homelessness, either.

It's just that once homeless (for whatever reason), many otherwise capable homeless people turn to alcohol, drugs, and/or criminal behavior -- all of which can limit their opportunities to return to a more normative lifestyle.

I stayed away from those things, and instead hustled up every legitimate job and saved every bit of cash I could to eventually get myself up and out of poverty and into a rented room in a modern-day commune (a.k.a., a "Cooperative Residence Facility"). From there, it was easy to get full-time employment and work my way into progressively better living (and social) arrangements. Now my wife and I are getting ready to retire, and we won't have to worry about where we're going to live.

Yes, There's more to it than just providing everyone with housing would solve. Some people become homeless due to not being able to cope with normal life without any support/advice which has become more and more complicated too.

Maybe the answer is more lower rungs on the ladder to catch people on their way down and give people the support to get out of it too.