"I am Right and you are Wrong" Syndrome

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Both seem to be little more than slurs for people more socially aware than the person using the slur.

well it started with 'not having much' being the cause of OPs syndrome in your reply.

idk if that is a slur, but I think it is false, and could be a poor bash, esp with the LA Garbage thread just a few days old, with its calls of violence and all that.

Hard to tell as you give no examples. Or is that against the rules, lol probably.

Maybe if you've bought into the worldview being described; they're both essentially catch-all terms for an ascendant brand of identity politics that has captured elite opinion in recent years, distinguished by its hyper-focus on identity to the exclusion of nearly all other considerations, particularly class. The purveyors of said ideology have studiously rejected every proposed name for it, as it's hard to fight what you can't name, but I find woke to be the best term, as everyone immediately knows what you mean, and it was initially self applied before being appropriated for withering ironic usage, unlike SJW, which was pejorative from the start.

I've had a few run ins with those types here on WP. I don't post in PPR too much anymore.

This is an excellent summation. Better than what I could have come up with.

"I am Wrong and you are Right" Syndrome is way worse.

You have healthy combativeness znof. But you're still wrong.

I misunderstood your post, was being sarcastic, and am right

No, I am right. An I'm considerably more sarcastic than you are.

you're full of it!

No one on WP EVER does that!

Like I said, slurs directed towards people more socially aware than the person using the slur. Reactionaries seem to love to insist how terrible SJWs are but based on the causes they align themselves with decent people recognize that reactionaries are the real problem and that 'wokeness' simply aren't.

Further, that fixation on idpol while ignoring other considerations seems to have been much more common a few years ago than today, but why admit that issue has improved when your goal is just to slag people you disagree with?

"Socially aware"? Like calling Hispanic people "LatinX", a word that they don't like and can't pronounce? Insisting that there are no biological difference between men and women, even as transgender athletes shatter record after record in women's sports? Claiming that any and all racial disparities are caused by racism, even if it means ignoring immigrants and lumping Asians in with whites? You're going to have to be more specific.



You use that term, "reactionaries", quite a bit, and I'm not sure just what you mean by it, I mean I'm guessing it's sort of a synonym for right wing, but then why not just say right wing? Also, you're just wrong there, wokeness is widely recognized as a problem, increasingly by Democrats who have realized that it's costing them elections, but because nobody is driving this particular bus, they don't know how to stop it. The working class laugh at it, liberals hate it but are too scared of being called racist to say so, and the professional class loves it because it's a low effort way to signal that they care while not actually having to do anything, it will be quickly discarded as soon as enough people find their collective balls and throw it in the trash, which we're already starting to see signs of.



Are we living in the same reality? I think things have calmed down a little bit from last year, but 2020 was the absolute peak of idpol, people were getting fired for not posting the proper social media profile image or errantly making something someone thought was a bad hand gesture, it was absurd, but everyone was too scared to do anything at the time.

All that aside, if you notice, I don't use woke as a slur, I use it as a descriptor, because people know what I mean when I say it, despite your protests to the contrary.

Not everyone who might be considered right wing would be considered reactionary, lots of libertarians wouldn't qualify as reactionaries depending on their social views.

Further, we both seem to agree that we're past 'peak idpol' as well as that it has the ability to be counterproductive to the left. I just don't approach it with the same level of hysteria as many people seem to, many of the people most invested in it are young and their views have started shifting as they've aged. I think we even agree that it's starting to be discarded or at least deprioritized because of how it has the ability to turn into a distraction from other issues that are better for forming a broader coalition.

If anything the way corporations/'the professional class' have embraced some aspects of it has been very useful for demonstrating to those younger activist types how superficial corporate dedication to any sort of social justice cause will always turn out to be.

Wokeists are reactionaries to the reactionaries & the reactionaries are the reactionaries to the wokeists. Both have an 'extreme' worldview with no 'grey area' or middle-ground. They are as bad as each other in terms of their lack of balance.

As a 'Star Trek' analogy, 'red alert' is full reactionary & would be the reactionaries, 'yellow alert' is for sensible people who want balance & 'blue alert' is the seemingly well meaning people who are unbalanced in the opposite direction of 'red alert' reactioanaries.

maybe its people with Fnord derangement syndrome!

the way out of that is to go forward, sort of!