Is "gay Christian" an oxymoron?

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Well, since some christian churches accept homosexuals as their members and take membership payment from them just like they take from everyone else, they'd be hypocrites if they didn't consider homosexuals true Christians. If they're not considered real members, they should be freed of membership payments (=called church tax here if anyone's wondering. Not that I know how churches are financed in USA.)

The Bible makes it clear that the practice of homosexuality is a sin. A true Christian doesn't practice sin. Practice as in a doctor practices medicine. A Christian is supposed to be willing to give up everything. Jesus made it quite clear that those who are unwilling to give up everything to follow him, can not be one of his disciples. One can be a homosexual and be a true disciple, but one can not practice homosexuality and be a true disciple.

The church is supposed to accept everyone. And isn't supposed to require money from anyone. That's between that person and God, as to whether they give anything or not. And while the church is supposed to accept anyone, the church isn't supposed to condone sin.

Jesus never said anything against homosexuality.

Nobody follows every single command that’s written in the Bible.

People are Christians if they follow Jesus.

If a person believes that Jesus of Nazareth was more than a human being, that person is a Christian, basically.

The Muslims believe that He was a prophet----but not more than a human being.

A “true” Christian is a person who follows Jesus and considers himself a Christian.

(It gets to me when people feel like they can make judgment calls on who is or isn’t a “true” Christian. My former church would claim that they were the only “true” Christians.)

Last edited by TwilightPrincess on 18 Jul 2022, 8:33 am, edited 1 time in total.

Indeed....just like the Hasidim believe they are the only "true Jews," and that all others are "goy."

This exclusivity is a manifestation of extremism.

I’m hoping that having homophobic religious views will eventually be considered extremist rather than normal. I think we’ll get there eventually.

Rubbish - it's the church welcoming everyone as children of God, no exceptions. Just as Jesus did.
(excellent series of images, Isabella! )

Does this mean nothing to you, or do you have some tired old chestnut to "prove" that it doesn't apply to some people?
"And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love." Corinthians 13

It also condemns lots of other things, but there always seems to be a cop-out clause for those and they're ignored.

The Bible can be all things to all men - and that's the problem with it: it's a cherry-picker's paradise.

Especially the King James Version.....

Actually Jesus took it up a notch and said that in just lusting after someone, you've committed sexual immorality. That's why Christians know that just looking at porn is a sin. According to Jesus a person can't both follow their fleshly desires and Jesus at the same time. People try to invent a verion of Jesus that doesn't exist in the Bible.

I think that the reason why there is no Mrs. Jesus is because Jesus was gay.

(I think his partner was Peter. He was always my favorite. He’s one of the more believable characters in the Bible IMO.)

A cute story: a guy in my former church said that he first knew he was gay when he was looking at pictures of Jesus. The illustrations we had of Jesus were kind of hunky. He had muscles and a six pack. The leadership wanted him to look strong and manly. They thought typical depictions of him made him look effeminate.

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That’s true. They make him better - a Jesus 2.0.

They also focus on the positive and beneficial things he said.

That's absolutely correct. We love those who are strippers and those who are strip club patrons, and they are welcome to join us. But that doesn't that mean the church should then become like a strip club. We love Wiccans and they are welcome to join us, but that doesn't mean the church should start displaying Wiccan implements and banners with pentagrams to fit in with them or be more accepted by them.



We are to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, mind, strength and soul, and our neighbors as ourselves. But loving others doesn't mean encouraging or accommodating sin. Jesus certainly didn't do that. He loved the sinners around him enough to eat and drink with them and then die for them. But he also told them to stop sinning. No more lusting, fornication, getting drunk etc.




They're not ignored by faithful Christians.



True, but there's a certain set of standards that are universal within the family of Christ that have been upheld for 2000 years.

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That's called making God in your own image.

If you're going to slander Christ, at least get it right. John said that he was the Apostle whom Jesus loved. Jesus even gave John to his mother to take his place as her son, while he was suffering and dying on the cross for you.

John would say that, wouldn’t he?

I don’t think the Bible portrays facts. I think they are stories or, perhaps, even tall tales.

The gospels are not eyewitness accounts. They were written later by anonymous writers. It’s hard to say, with any certainty, what’s fact and what is fiction in them.

https://www.npr.org/2010/03/12/12457269 ... he-gospels