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15 Jun 2023, 5:02 pm

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I don't tend to get heavily drunk, but I struggle a bit with not drinking.

I've been a little better disciplined since I've started treating every time I don't buy booze as an excuse to save money for goalie gear, but it's not enough to completely maintain discipline.

What worries me is that when I drink, it's never 1 or 2 drinks, it's always like >5 spaced out over 4-8 hours. Even if I don't become drunk, it's still more than one should drink. Well that and how easy it is to day-drink to deal with boredom.

I'm pretty sure I've bought at least a third of the Spirytus my local liquor store sells. :oops:


My local liquor store has asked me if I’m okay since I buy a lot of beer cans there before.


Thankfully I've got 2 grocery stores, a convenience store and the Beer Store, on top of the liquor store. :lol: :oops:

Lucky you. I live in a backwards province where we can only buy liquor at liquor stores - gov't or private. We can only just recently buy some BC wine & ciders at a handful of larger supermarkets. :roll:

It's not THAT big of deal, just not as convenient as it should be to buy a 6 pack or whatever on your way to the beach like in 'murica 'cross the line where you can buy cases of beer at every gas station.

Whatever - alcohol is hella expensive here. Probably for the best that you have to go out of your way to buy it. Might be fewer alcoholics for it, too.. but, maybe not. You'd have to be pretty far out of town somewhere not to have a liquor store nearby somewhere.


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15 Jun 2023, 5:03 pm

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I guess I block this part out... me getting the shakes was one of the major reasons I started down the path to sobriety. If that hadn't happened to me, I am sure I not be here now to type this out. DO refer to your GP as much as is possible through this, because if you really are drinking that much, your body is not going to like you going "cold turkey". This is how insidious alcohol is. Do take care.

I started trying to drink less/hopefully eventually stop because my gallbladder/liver started hurting really bad all the time (probably because I take medication that I shouldn't drink with...), but especially when I drank. It was making me nauseous 24/7 and vomit a lot. Having a problem with alcohol is not fun at all and will f**k you up pretty quick.

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No bueno At All.

I cannot imagine doing something like that to myself and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever why anyone does that to themselves.


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15 Jun 2023, 5:23 pm

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8O

No bueno At All.

I cannot imagine doing something like that to myself and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever why anyone does that to themselves.

In my case I may have a personality disorder (BPD) from years of trauma, where one of the symptoms is literally self-harming behaviour and doing really risky s**t (like binge drinking) to deal with severe feelings of emptiness. I noticed alcohol helps with the anxiety and emptiness, and then as it spiraled I found it hard to give a F that I was hurting myself, until it really started to hurt and I started considering dumb life-destroying s**t like going to work buzzed (because I spent most of my day off work drunk and I started feeling like s**t while not drunk).



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15 Jun 2023, 5:33 pm

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Whatever - alcohol is hella expensive here. Probably for the best that you have to go out of your way to buy it. Might be fewer alcoholics for it, too.. but, maybe not. You'd have to be pretty far out of town somewhere not to have a liquor store nearby somewhere.


One of the few things I don't mind about Doug Ford, Ontario was like BC until a few years ago.


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15 Jun 2023, 5:38 pm

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8O

No bueno At All.

I cannot imagine doing something like that to myself and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever why anyone does that to themselves.

In my case I may have a personality disorder (BPD) from years of trauma, where one of the symptoms is literally self-harming behaviour and doing really risky s**t (like binge drinking) to deal with severe feelings of emptiness. I noticed alcohol helps with the anxiety and emptiness, and then as it spiraled I found it hard to give a F that I was hurting myself, until it really started to hurt and I started considering dumb life-destroying s**t like going to work buzzed (because I spent most of my day off work drunk and I started feeling like s**t while not drunk).

Yeah, I know people with BPD and comprehend it.. but it still doesn't make sense.

Way better off smoking cannabis than drinking.


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15 Jun 2023, 5:40 pm

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Whatever - alcohol is hella expensive here. Probably for the best that you have to go out of your way to buy it. Might be fewer alcoholics for it, too.. but, maybe not. You'd have to be pretty far out of town somewhere not to have a liquor store nearby somewhere.


One of the few things I don't mind about Doug Ford, Ontario was like BC until a few years ago.

Vancouver parks board just made it legal to drink in several parks & beaches.. and everyone here :lol: 'd because everyone who wants to drink in parks or at beaches already does. 8)


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15 Jun 2023, 5:54 pm

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Yeah, I know people with BPD and comprehend it.. but it still doesn't make sense...

NGL I'm not quite sure you do comprehend it, but most people without BPD/traits if it can't really fully fathom the s**t we do so I'm not surprised. You basically have to experience it to "get it" because it's a whole rollercoaster of s**t that creates those behaviours. lol



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15 Jun 2023, 5:57 pm

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Whatever - alcohol is hella expensive here. Probably for the best that you have to go out of your way to buy it. Might be fewer alcoholics for it, too.. but, maybe not. You'd have to be pretty far out of town somewhere not to have a liquor store nearby somewhere.


One of the few things I don't mind about Doug Ford, Ontario was like BC until a few years ago.

Vancouver parks board just made it legal to drink in several parks & beaches.. and everyone here :lol: 'd because everyone who wants to drink in parks or at beaches already does. 8)


But now they can't single out people to harass for drinking in public, whereas before they could.

Kinda like how in Ontario everyone drives 20 over and rarely gets ticketed, but cops can pull pretty much anyone over at anytime with cause, because hey, they were doing 102 in an 80.


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15 Jun 2023, 5:58 pm

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Yeah, I know people with BPD and comprehend it.. but it still doesn't make sense...

NGL I'm not quite sure you do comprehend it, but most people without BPD/traits if it can't really fully fathom the s**t we do so I'm not surprised. You basically have to experience it to "get it" because it's a whole rollercoaster of s**t that creates those behaviours. lol


Unless someone's been there they really can't understand why someone would consciously inflict harm upon themselves, or knowingly risk severe harm without any benefit.

Because I deserve it. :oops:


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15 Jun 2023, 10:25 pm

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Yeah, I know people with BPD and comprehend it.. but it still doesn't make sense...

NGL I'm not quite sure you do comprehend it, but most people without BPD/traits if it can't really fully fathom the s**t we do so I'm not surprised. You basically have to experience it to "get it" because it's a whole rollercoaster of s**t that creates those behaviours. lol

I've dated someone with it and experienced a whole lot of it as close as I'm going to without being the one with BPD.


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16 Jun 2023, 7:44 am

Great thread. And I love it's sense of comradery.

I HAVE to drink every night or I cannot sleep. I also see it as a sort of reward, or a treat, for getting through the day and accompanying my me-time before going to bed.

Like someone else here earlier said, once I start I cannot stop, so I do not to drink until the evening (in fact I have no desire for alcohol in daylight hours... it just feels wrong and makes me sleepy).

Still, I feel the drinking every day thing is a bit much and I want to try to cut down.

Every day is a beer (sometimes two), then about 1 hour before bedtime I sip my way through a STRONG whisky and coke, then I might think "well.... i need to be in bed by 10.30. It is 10 now. I have have another one of those, but shouldn't".

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but I never wake up the next morning on the latter occasions thinking I wish I had that extra one. Reminding myself that helps.



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16 Jun 2023, 7:46 am

9pm used to trigger my need for alcohol.


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16 Jun 2023, 8:52 am

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Great thread. And I love it's sense of comradery.

I HAVE to drink every night or I cannot sleep. I also see it as a sort of reward, or a treat, for getting through the day and accompanying my me-time before going to bed.

Like someone else here earlier said, once I start I cannot stop, so I do not to drink until the evening (in fact I have no desire for alcohol in daylight hours... it just feels wrong and makes me sleepy).

Still, I feel the drinking every day thing is a bit much and I want to try to cut down.

Every day is a beer (sometimes two), then about 1 hour before bedtime I sip my way through a STRONG whisky and coke, then I might think "well.... i need to be in bed by 10.30. It is 10 now. I have have another one of those, but shouldn't".

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but I never wake up the next morning on the latter occasions thinking I wish I had that extra one. Reminding myself that helps.

There's nothing in alcohol that makes you fall asleep unless you're drinking until you pass out. Meanwhile, there's caffeine in coca-cola that keeps you awake.

Seems you've just conditioned yourself to believe you Need to drink alcohol to sleep.


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16 Jun 2023, 9:30 am

I haven't been addicted to alcohol, but I have been addicted to Kratom for two years. It was helpful for my AS and ADHD, but worsened my pre-existing psychosis.

The Kratom was drug tested by a mental hospital facility: the Kratom was spiked with amphetamines, methadone and artificial THC's, so not just the naturally occurring bio-active compounds such as Mitragynine.

Basically, Kratom saved and ruined my life paradoxically. Is very expensive too!


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16 Jun 2023, 9:40 am

On the Magners cider again today (Guinness is getting to expensive).

Don't seem to be able to get through the day and evening without a drink.


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16 Jun 2023, 9:54 am

If I go to a place that’s noisy I drink to numb all the stimuli coming in.
I also like a nice beverage on my porch with a hit or two of good weed.
It’s a dry county here ,so if you want something good to drink expect a long drive.You can get cheap beer and whiskey at bootleggers but it costs more than the store.A convenience fee.I’d rather wait and get something good.
Was up in Missouri where Kratom is legal and Bio- mom bought a huge bag of it.
Then we went to the tobacco store since cigs are thirty dollars a carton cheaper there and vape is also cheaper.Then to dispensary where it’s completely legal and enjoyed buying and looking at large jars of bud.
Then we got some booze and headed home.


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