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09 Sep 2023, 5:16 pm

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It took 70 years from the first decision to build metro system to opening the first section of the first line.

When we first built our subway in the Seventies, here in Washington DC, it was farthest southern ( and closest to the Equator) subway system in the world. Subways generate lotsa heat. Those trains passing through tubes (I suppose) act like diesel cylinders. Dont know if ours is still the most tropical subway system in the world or not.


I Wouldn’t say that, considering I used to take Metro(Sometimes from Rockville, sometimes from Greenbelt, sometimes from Bethesda) when I worked as a contractor-employee for the DCSOP—U.S. Army—Pentagon back in the mid-1990’s)



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09 Sep 2023, 6:43 pm

The city of York, PA was the first Capitol of the United Ststes, after the British invaded Philadelphia. The Continental Congress settled in Lancaster, PA for 1 day before moving west of the Susquehanna River and settling in York, where the Continental Congress ratified the Articles of Confederation, which was the first document establishing the United States of America.



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10 Sep 2023, 12:17 am

MuddRM wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
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It took 70 years from the first decision to build metro system to opening the first section of the first line.

When we first built our subway in the Seventies, here in Washington DC, it was farthest southern ( and closest to the Equator) subway system in the world. Subways generate lotsa heat. Those trains passing through tubes (I suppose) act like diesel cylinders. Dont know if ours is still the most tropical subway system in the world or not.


I Wouldn’t say that, considering I used to take Metro(Sometimes from Rockville, sometimes from Greenbelt, sometimes from Bethesda) when I worked as a contractor-employee for the DCSOP—U.S. Army—Pentagon back in the mid-1990’s)

I didnt say that riders are aware of the heat. The system siphons it off somehow. But its harder to do that the closer to the equator you get.



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10 Sep 2023, 12:40 am

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There are a couple of metro lines in North Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_rai ... Data_Table
The first was Cairo Metro, opened in 1987.

But certainly South of Washington, DC, there's whole Latin America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_L ... _ridership


How many of those systems are underground? If they have subway mileage than that person who told me that factoid was wrong. Lol!



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10 Sep 2023, 5:57 am

I certainly used underground metro in Buenos Aires.
Cairo metro is underground.
Mexico City system is apparently mixed underground/surface/elevated, similar to Paris system, but mostly underground.
Rio de Janeiro has underground system.

I think this factoid about metro in tropical latitudes is all made up. Geology and economy are way more important than climate - economy being crucial.

The 70 years of "building" metro in my city was all about first the Great Depression, then WWII - hostile occupation ending up with the city turned to a sea of ruins, then decades of economically inefficient rebuilding under Soviet-aligned rule. These were the main sources of delay, the secondary one being quicksands.


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10 Sep 2023, 8:05 am

I used underground in Buenos Aires too.


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10 Sep 2023, 8:55 am

naturalplastic wrote:
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It took 70 years from the first decision to build metro system to opening the first section of the first line.

When we first built our subway in the Seventies, here in Washington DC, it was farthest southern ( and closest to the Equator) subway system in the world. Subways generate lotsa heat. Those trains passing through tubes (I suppose) act like diesel cylinders. Dont know if ours is still the most tropical subway system in the world or not.


The Mexico City Metro opened in 1969. Can confirm Mexico City is closer to the equator than DC, having flown from one to the other, so like no.


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10 Sep 2023, 11:05 am

MaxE wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
magz wrote:
It took 70 years from the first decision to build metro system to opening the first section of the first line.

When we first built our subway in the Seventies, here in Washington DC, it was farthest southern ( and closest to the Equator) subway system in the world. Subways generate lotsa heat. Those trains passing through tubes (I suppose) act like diesel cylinders. Dont know if ours is still the most tropical subway system in the world or not.


The Mexico City Metro opened in 1969. Can confirm Mexico City is closer to the equator than DC, having flown from one to the other, so like no.


They have a metro train, but does it have subways?



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10 Sep 2023, 1:00 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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naturalplastic wrote:
magz wrote:
It took 70 years from the first decision to build metro system to opening the first section of the first line.

When we first built our subway in the Seventies, here in Washington DC, it was farthest southern ( and closest to the Equator) subway system in the world. Subways generate lotsa heat. Those trains passing through tubes (I suppose) act like diesel cylinders. Dont know if ours is still the most tropical subway system in the world or not.


The Mexico City Metro opened in 1969. Can confirm Mexico City is closer to the equator than DC, having flown from one to the other, so like no.


They have a metro train, but does it have subways?

Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... etro_lines


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10 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
magz wrote:
There are a couple of metro lines in North Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_rai ... Data_Table
The first was Cairo Metro, opened in 1987.

But certainly South of Washington, DC, there's whole Latin America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_L ... _ridership


How many of those systems are underground? If they have subway mileage than that person who told me that factoid was wrong. Lol!


Yes, they told you a factoid, not a fact. A factoid resembles a fact but isn't true.

Even if a subway train could in theory cause an increase in temperature, the increasing pressure in front of the train would be a great cause of inefficiency (since the higher the pressure the harder the train needs to work to keep travelling forward).

With that in mind, a subway system is always going to be designed to allow air pressure to vent, ensuring the overall pressure stays very close to atmospheric.


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10 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm

Thanks for correcting me about something I was already correct about! :lol:

Its obvious that I am one the rare folks who uses "factoid" correctly to mean "something that resembles a fact but is not a fact" because thats exactly how I was using the word.

I assume they get the air. out of the way of the train. The person didnt give an explanation for why they generate heat.

One source says that "the oldest subway system in the southern hemisphere" is that of Buenos Aires. Which is not in the tropical part of South America, but in the antipodal temperate zone. But its on the same latitude as Atlanta Georgia (the southern hemisphere equivalent I mean). But Atlanta is up high in the Appalachians. Sea level Buenos Aires is more like Charleston South Carolina which would make it more in the direction of the Tropics (both in location and in climate) than Washington DC by a margin or so. So yeah. Dont know where that person heard that.

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But a thing that IS true is that the fight song of our city's team, the "Hail to the Redskins" song, used to have some strange lyrics...including "fight, fight for the Southland,....".

The "Southland"? WTF?

That was because from their inception in 1933 until 1960 Washington WAS the farthest southern city to have a team in the NFL! In 1960 the NFL was joined by the Dallas Cowboys- the first team closer to the Equator than DC. So for all of that time Washington had the job of... representing the whole South.

The NFL expanded hugely in the Sixties, and then expanded again in the 90s. And now there are zillions of NFL teams from the whole length of the deep south. So they long ago changed that line about "the Southland" in the song.

The song was part of Redskin fandom for decades on. But in the recent years, even before they changed the team's name to "the Commanders", it seems to have become passe' on TV.



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12 Sep 2023, 11:09 am

We had a famous boat disaster once. Great loss of life.


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13 Sep 2023, 7:37 am

It's the first small town of this country to have it's name in old records.



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13 Sep 2023, 8:49 am

The Rolling Stones refused to ever play in my city after the police shut down a concert in the 60s.


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13 Sep 2023, 12:06 pm

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The Rolling Stones refused to ever play in my city after the police shut down a concert in the 60s.


At least the didn't hire the Hells Angels for security (again).


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13 Sep 2023, 12:58 pm

It's the undisputed capital of the striped flint stone :D A large striped flint deposit is located in Lesser Poland near my town.