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IsabellaLinton
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29 Aug 2023, 6:22 am

I think the only reason some people assume all reincarnation stories involve famous people is because the media presents those stories. They have a higher audience appeal and details can be verified more easily by historians. There are thousands if not millions of stories of people remembering "boring", pedestrian lives but few people take those seriously because there's no way of fact checking or verifying accuracy.

I suppose people who reject the concept of reincarnation also reject Buddhism and Samsara?


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29 Aug 2023, 6:57 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I think the only reason some people assume all reincarnation stories involve famous people is because the media presents those stories. They have a higher audience appeal and details can be verified more easily by historians. There are thousands if not millions of stories of people remembering "boring", pedestrian lives but few people take those seriously because there's no way of fact checking or verifying accuracy.

I suppose people who reject the concept of reincarnation also reject Buddhism and Samsara?

You would assume Christians would reject those. But the same folks embrace the belief that you will be greeted by St. Peter starring at your ledger book while a bunch of angels play harps in the background. Reincarnation is no more ridiculous than that belief, but its not any less so.

Thats right though...I read about a psychiatrist who studied alleged previous life memories who did the stats on the demographics of previous incarnations and said that most previous life memories were of life as either common peasants, or as tribal hunter gatherers. Only a minority were aristocrats, much less kings, in their previous lives.

Only one "famous person" case became well known that I know of...that of a school girl in Sweden who ...seemed to have been Anne Frank in her previous life. REALLY weird.

Ive seen both sides. Cases that looked solid. And cases that looked solid that were later debunked. So be open minded AND be skeptical is all I can say.



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29 Aug 2023, 7:25 am

If I were to be reincarnated, I wouldn't mind living in the renaissance era, as an artist, passing the time in the home of a wealthy family who have a big house.



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29 Aug 2023, 9:21 am

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If I were to be reincarnated, I wouldn't mind living in the renaissance era, as an artist, passing the time in the home of a wealthy family who have a big house.

What the effing H are you talking about?

You die, and then get reborn as another person in a subsequent lifetime at a later point in time.

So you might have already been a person in renaissance times, in a past lifetime. And when you die in this lifetime you might come back as a person in the future. But you dont get "reincarnated" as someone in the past.



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29 Aug 2023, 9:23 am

Time doesn’t exist so it’s actually possible. ^


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29 Aug 2023, 9:34 am

I was very solidly in the "prove it or it ain't true" camp for much of my life.

It's fair to say I still am, but now refer to myself as a "skeptical psychonaut", largely because I now know there may be much more to be proven (or not), and it's fascinating to take a deeper look at basic questions in life when in an altered state, or in the neuroplasticity state that occurs afterward, in some cases.
Any and all philosophy, including politics, seems to be a fruitless endeavor, if you demand solid, universal answers, but the consideration of additional possibilities beyond what one may believe one knows, at any stage in life seems well worthwhile to me.

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29 Aug 2023, 10:11 am

naturalplastic wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
If I were to be reincarnated, I wouldn't mind living in the renaissance era, as an artist, passing the time in the home of a wealthy family who have a big house.

What the effing H are you talking about?

You die, and then get reborn as another person in a subsequent lifetime at a later point in time.

So you might have already been a person in renaissance times, in a past lifetime. And when you die in this lifetime you might come back as a person in the future. But you dont get "reincarnated" as someone in the past.


I didn't know reincarnation relied on a chronological timeline?

I was just speculating anyway. My comment wasn't particularly serious.



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29 Aug 2023, 10:13 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Time doesn’t exist so it’s actually possible. ^


Right?

Time is relative.



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29 Aug 2023, 1:47 pm

The 'Past Life Forum' is a good resource:

https://reincarnationforum.com/



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29 Aug 2023, 5:06 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
If I were to be reincarnated, I wouldn't mind living in the renaissance era, as an artist, passing the time in the home of a wealthy family who have a big house.

What the effing H are you talking about?

You die, and then get reborn as another person in a subsequent lifetime at a later point in time.

So you might have already been a person in renaissance times, in a past lifetime. And when you die in this lifetime you might come back as a person in the future. But you dont get "reincarnated" as someone in the past.


I didn't know reincarnation relied on a chronological timeline?

I was just speculating anyway. My comment wasn't particularly serious.

Just making sure you understand what were talking about.Serious or joking you were not "doing it right".

Joking or serious folks speak of it as "I was such and such in a previous life", or "I will be such and such in my next incarnation". Its not the same conversation as the "if you could live in any era what would it be?- I like Elizabthan times or whatever.".

You can postulate that reincarnation doesnt follow the same rules as everyday common sense sequential time, so therefore you could go back in time, but then you have to state that that is what you believe if you're gonna go into that type of speculation.

And that would create problems...like you could go sideways and reincarnate into several simultaneously living individuals of the same era. It would be a mess.



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29 Aug 2023, 11:08 pm

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This went on for a few years to the point her family was video recording it and keeping transcripts.


I assume she has no memory of this any longer?
I have heard of children who recall "other lives" but their memories quickly disappear. My daughter recalled visitations from an entity when she was a child who would keep her company when she was alone. Now she claims she's too embarrassed to bring it up and can't remember ever having those memories.



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29 Aug 2023, 11:11 pm

My kids don't talk to her anymore because she's on the no-contact side of the family, but last they knew her about five years ago no ... she only remembered it through the videos and what she was told.


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30 Aug 2023, 3:41 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I think the only reason some people assume all reincarnation stories involve famous people is because the media presents those stories. . .
While that may be true for others, I derived my opinion from the time I spent as a 'psychic' in my cousin's storefront business.  People would brag to me first-hand about the famous person they supposedly were in a previous life, with at least two people claiming to be the same famous persons many, many times.

I don't remember exactly how many President Lincolns and Pharoah Cleopatras I have met over the decades.  Nobody, however, has ever claimed to have been a pauper or a slave.

Thomas Edison?  Sure!  Jimmie MacKenzie?  Not a single claimant. :roll:



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30 Aug 2023, 3:59 am

According to the past life regression I had, I was a poor orpan who worked in a coal mine and died of suffocation in a cave-in while still a boy.

I want my money back.


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30 Aug 2023, 4:02 am

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According to the past life regression I had, I was a poor orpan who worked in a coal mine and died of suffocation in a cave-in while still a boy.  I want my money back.
You should have sprung for the Deluxe Reading.

You would likely have been found to be a high-level minister in Charlemagne's royal court!

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30 Aug 2023, 4:05 am

^ I dont know how that works with past life regression as you are the person suposedly remembering.
There is no 'reader', the person puts you under hypnosis and asks you questions which you answer.


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