Do panhandlers / hobos make you nervous?

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20 Aug 2007, 10:02 am

They only make me as nervous as anyone else who talks to me unexpectedly.


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20 Aug 2007, 12:58 pm

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I don't know how you can make such general assumptions. I would think being homeless would kind of suck. I know if I had a choice between living on the street and flipping burgers I'd choose flipping burgers. I would think there's something besides just laziness that's preventing them from working. Maybe there's a few that actually like being bums, but I wouldn't guess the majority do.

I generally don't give money to panhandlers in the US though. They can get basic necessities from shelters and such. The money they beg for is probably for "extra" things. I don't blame them too much for wanting booze or extra treats though.

I was also homeless once. And not even there would I stoop to begging.


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20 Aug 2007, 2:44 pm

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And then we're told that illegal aliens do jobs that us Americans won't do. Yea, they'd rather be bums. Put the homeless people in the fields picking strawberries, and send the illegals home. Two problems solved. :roll:


I like that alot!

Tho, i realize some simply cannot work, and its a big problem in the US, because some have so much and others have so little, and their is many!!

Down at the river here in the city is where they hang out. I was down their fishing, and a homeless vietnam vet was talking about how he saw someone walking a dog and was mad that the dog was being treated better then he was, and that he fought for this nation. I felt bad, and gave him a few $$$, which was all I had, figureing he could put it to better use then I did. He was drunk it appeared, but whatever.


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20 Aug 2007, 3:30 pm

They don't make me nervous I just get tired of being asked for money by strangers. Also another biggie here is Navajos asking for rides to the reservation. Yeah dude like I'm going to drive a drunk stranger for two hours out of my way. Oh and the other big complaints I have are the Navajos that think as a non-Navajo you OWE them money to take the bus to the rez. And the other one is the Mexicans seem to think that all dark haired light skinned people in town are Mexican like them and they run up to me sputtering away in Spanish trying to sell tamales to me. I do not speak Spanish because I am not Mexican and no I don't buy homemade food from strangers. Get the hell away from me is my usual response.



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20 Aug 2007, 7:04 pm

hahahaha navajos intown to get there drink on


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21 Aug 2007, 2:52 am

Yeah Richard exactly. I'm angry the drunk Navajos are what caused Bunhuggers East to have to close. There was so many drunks laying around the side of the building that the owner of the plaza wouldn't renew their lease. I once saw the police arrest 4 drunkos at once that were passed out in front of the place.

For anyone wondering what the.. Bunhuggers is... its a restaurant that makes grilled burgers to order plus homemade fries and zucchini slices and has a separate bar.

Don't think we're bad. Its pathetic here. I've never lived any place where drunks lay on the sidewalk and in front of grocery stores. And they are always Navajo; I dunno why. When I worked early morning shift I had to call the police to have them go pick up a man wandering drunk in the middle of the road. They lay behind McDonalds sometimes and I've seen men I weren't sure were drunk or dead. I've also gone in another restaurant where 6 officers and 2 paramedics were trying to lift an unconscious son of a buck off the floor as he had wandered in their plastered and passed out.

They also pee in front of people on the side of the road or sidewalks. It is nasty. So I do not hand out money to panhandlers as I know they will use it for booze. I don't want to contribute to the problem.



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21 Aug 2007, 5:37 am

We get trouble like that with aborigines here. There used to be a lady near the bus stop who always asked me for money. The police say not to give them any money. But she and some of the others looked so sick and skinny. There are often fights between the women or the women and the men.

I think the Indians in the US got treated worse than the aborigines here in Australia but there are some similar issues with drink and social disintegration in various groups within these races.

A couple of years ago there was this white man camped outside a shop looking for money to get a bus fare to the capital city of my state so he could get a job. I gave him some money because I think he was genuine.

Most hobos are mentally ill and their families can't look after them. I realise mental institutions had many problems but just putting people out on the streets with little support is hardly any better.

Yes, there are shelters but I think you'd find that most of them have to turn people away because there is too much demand.


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21 Aug 2007, 5:38 am

I'm only bothered if they do something to me or yell or stuff. If they mind their own business then I don't care.
I also don't like blatant lies--- but i am more apt to give money for honesty or creativity. If a guy holds a sign that says " I'm not lying, i just need a beer" then I'll pitch in for that. i like the fact that he's not spouting some crap about a fake sick mother 3 states away. It's just honest.
I might give $ if the story shows a creative edge--- a sick mother who has 3 sick iguanas, one of which has iguana-dwarfism. Now that's a story! I'll give $ for that.
Another thing that might make me more apt to donate is an effort to earn the money instead of plain begging. A guy who sings for money or plays a plastic bucket-drum--- that's art! I like to give to artistic causes.



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21 Aug 2007, 5:48 am

We also have buskers, including a swagman who tells bush stories for $1 AUS a pop.


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21 Aug 2007, 7:55 am

wtf sort of stupid name is a panhandler? :roll: :lol:

In europe most people buy raw food and cook it themselves, none of this ready-beaten eggs in a carton business.



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21 Aug 2007, 7:59 am

Even though I've had some misfortunes in life, I feel bad seeing people who don't even have a home but just giving them money doesn't solve all their problems - it's just a temporary solution.


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21 Aug 2007, 11:27 am

the police pick up the drunks here all the time and take them to the hospital. they dry out at the hospital after the city pays $1000 to detox them and then drop them back on the street. then they get picked up again a few days later. the drunks are all on a first name basis with the nurses at the hospital. they don't have a shelter for them so they live either in the forest or behind stores.

a lot of native americans are missing a enzyme or something that breaks down alcohol properly. so it affects them differently than it does non-indians.



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21 Aug 2007, 11:30 am

there is a difference between the drunks, druggies and mentally ill vietnam vets that live on the streets and panhandlers. panhandlers often times live comfortable lives at the expense of morons. several news shows have interviewed people who panhandle and make $30,000 or more a year doing it and own a house and so forth. they would rather beg for money than work.



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21 Aug 2007, 11:31 am

Ticker makes me nervous.... :oops:



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21 Aug 2007, 11:34 am

Ticker wrote:
the police pick up the drunks here all the time and take them to the hospital. they dry out at the hospital after the city pays $1000 to detox them and then drop them back on the street. then they get picked up again a few days later. the drunks are all on a first name basis with the nurses at the hospital. they don't have a shelter for them so they live either in the forest or behind stores.

a lot of native americans are missing a enzyme or something that breaks down alcohol properly. so it affects them differently than it does non-indians.


That is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard. That's not it, they just drink a lot more because they have nothing better to do. Not being racist or trying to, but they've had it bad kind of like the jews, the africans... Generally, they are treated like the hanging toenails of North American society. That's why they drink so much... and don't call them 'indians' thats racist.



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21 Aug 2007, 11:43 am

I've travelled and seen beggars of all colors in all sorts of countries.
What gets me locally is the guy saying he's down on his luck and is freshly shaven and is wearing better colonge and shoes than I am.

I f you really want to send someone off AS friends tell em all about your special intrests!
"thats nice Mr hobo but did you know that Super Spectacular Wizard Man actually had five different secret identities . . .?
" Hey there Ms. Crack Prostitute are you aware the universe is expanding at at rate of . . .
It works for me. But I'm a clean cut crazy white dude in his mid 30s. All the big psycho stories are about clean cut crazy white dudes in thier mid 30s and being homeless dosent make you stupid.