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Today, 4:25 pm

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I've got until October I think before windows 10 goes


Why not give Linux a try? Perhaps Ubuntu, Mint, or some other entry level Linux system?

There is no reason to keep suffering through Windows unless you need to run software that requires Windows. If not, drop it and don't look back.



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Today, 4:27 pm

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I have expensive taste but I hate spending money

I did fork out over a grand on my new sofa though and my skates costed me 200 nicker but I try and do things on the cheap mainly

I will have to buy a new computer this year so I'm scouting around for the best deal I can get for that ATM


How about refurbished? I've had good luck with computers from Discount Electronics. On computers, they typically have a year warranty.

Right now, they have two or three brand new out of the box (but probably spent four or five years in the box) Dell computers for $299 each.



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Today, 4:29 pm

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Yeah I just don't wanna spend that amount of money if I can help it

I'll keep looking. I don't know whether a refurbished machine would be ok. I'm not sure


Most of my computers are refurbished. The first thing I do with any refurbished computer I buy is to get rid of Windows and install either Linux for a workstation or OpenBSD for a server.



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Today, 4:54 pm

So then you get Linux which is about as user friendly as a poke in the eye.


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Today, 5:06 pm

Yes, I buy food. Food is expensive. Especially nutritious food. But people need food to survive and it's one of the basic human rights.



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Today, 5:31 pm

Well, I'm currently in the middle of a four-year process which I'll be lucky to have paid off 100 years after I die. So yes.

I don't buy expensive things unless I need them though. For one thing I'm a college student so I don't have any money, but also I just don't see the point in spending a lot of money on something I don't need. The things I don't need I either buy for small amounts, get as gifts, or make.


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Today, 6:32 pm

babybird wrote:
I've got until October I think before windows 10 goes

You're right, in the sense that Microsoft will end free support then. But there are alternatives to buying a new computer:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... ober-2025/

Personally I don't trust Microsoft's ability to upgrade a Win10 computer to Win11, but that view isn't based on bad experiences. Just that I have no experience at all in doing that, and I've heard a lot of horror stories about Microsoft updating Win10 and breaking stuff.

I'm also a tad wary of that website's advice because they speak pretty well of Google's Chrome OS, confining their warnings to the thing about it being "limited" in what you can do with it. In my view, Google is a thoroughly nasty company, but I suppose it could be argued that Microsoft is barely any better. I'm sure Linux is good, but in my case I want to keep on using my legacy Windows programs. If I'd gone for Linux when I started out with computers, I'd probably love it, but I hate the thought of all that learning I've gone through on Windows going to waste and having to start again.

Me, I quite like the idea of coasting along with Windows 10 beyond the end-of-service deadline. I've done that with Win7 but haven't come to any harm yet. They're right that the Web will gradually stop supporting Win10, but there'll probably be a few years till that gets too bad to continue. There's no hard-and-fast answer. It's just such a crying shame that people are having to spend hundreds replacing good equipment just because the Big People are forcing them into it. Planned obsolescence ought to be a hanging offense. Global warming just round the corner and they want us to buy new computers every 3 years.



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Today, 6:34 pm

I upgraded my previous Dell desktop PC from W10 to W11 with no issues. If anyone wants to buy it they can have it for £100 plus postage costs.

Just PM me.


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Today, 6:51 pm

Rossall wrote:
So then you get Linux which is about as user friendly as a poke in the eye.


From my point of view, Linux is far more user friendly than Windows.



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My experience with Linux is you have to spend hours googling to get anything to work.


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29 minutes ago

Rossall wrote:
My experience with Linux is you have to spend hours googling to get anything to work.


About a year ago, I spent a little while setting up Linux Mint for an elderly neighbor and she quickly learned how to do what she needed to do on it.



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No.

Unless it's actually an investment, actually something that endures by quality and remain reliable in long term.

I'm trying to figure ways on how to find very sturdy clothing that's also just as comfortable and passable at home, indoors and outdoors events. The same can be said with footwear.
Even if I have to resort to finding materials myself and have it tailored to my preferred patterns.

Temporary stuff like make up and nails? Never. Temporary is temporary. I'd DIY them myself.

Jewelry? It better be real gold.
That, or a decorative something that only costs less than 2 USD equivalent per piece just for an occasion or two. I don't have the need to impress anyone.

Phones? Unless there's a high end phone that can lasts for 20+ years for all my needs and preferences, no.
Until then, I can only go for minimum future proofing low to mid range something durable.

Consumables? Not by bulk unless it's already guaranteed for me.
Unless it's the very thing that will give me guarantee reliable executive function, perfect hair or even-out skin tone, I'm not spending much on it.
I can experiment here and there, out of luck if there are vendors that sells genuine per pieces to try, until then I won't be sticking to any brands much and I won't be trying anything that cuts my budget to something that can potentially not work for me because I brought something by bulk.

Other tech like laptop?
Well, it's complicated. All I do know is that I don't jump towards 'the best' at the first go or first upgrade.
But I can finally able to afford to a bit. Only a bit. I need more than one or two; one would be something I may kept using until I get the hang of it a bit to know enough of what I need.
I'd rather have that, and a very optimized low end spare.
I don't need anything fancier than budget mid-range something unless I ended up in careers that do require me to get something high-end.

Furnitures and appliances?
I try my best to take care of mine and I only buy what I only need so far before upgrading into something sturdier, more personal and more permanent.

Everday food? Not really. That's already expensive by itself IMO.
If I can get away with it, I can just live in cheap pre-cooked minimum.
It's easy to get something of quality fresh and cheap here if I can cook from scratch. I just need better cooking skills to ensure any potential health investment on my part.

Vehicles?
So far, I can get away with just walking and biking. I don't live or work in places where I have to travel into the next city to work or go home from work yet.
And it's not like people will rely on me to do a lot of heavy work transporting stuff, and I think I don't like the idea of me being told to fetch people on schedule unless that became a job.


Basically, almost nothing.


Health? I cannot afford to splurge over that. It's a fricking gamble that may win me nothing in my case.
A consultation can costs me about 1/6th of my monthly salary at minimum.
That's not including what I may need or other tests if it gone right, that's not included if the doctor assumed wrong and wasted my time.



On topic of switching to Linux...

I'm currently just emulating one via virtual machine. I always wanted to do that. It took me over an hour to make it work.

But couldn't because all the PCs I owned before couldn't handle it. Too low end to run and support properly.
That, and my reading comprehension sucked enough to get stuck at certain steps. I was in college.

Of course it's slow in this case because it's being emulated. I'm only on my 3rd day...
... Because I only get to use the PC for only 1-3 hrs a day. I don't mind Googling everything for hours end, because I already had that habit.

My current PC?? Only recently been fixed. Like 5 days ago.


I've yet to: get a genuine 8GB USB to flash a live OS into to try out if some of my other old, lower end devices are compatible running with it before actually installing it.

My current laptop's already on Windows 11 when brought -- I failed at getting any working GUI experience over WSL. Don't know how to get WSL2 yet. I fail at self-remote viewing any OS over whatever server.

Windows 10 support on my current PC will end soon. Still deciding if I'll install a Linux distro in either, or not and keep it emulated in either/both.
Or possibly double boot either/both.

Still need windows to accommodate some of my current jobs.
Else, I don't mind chains of file conversions because my boss had recently got a Mac laptop and wanted windows based files so transfers to her old laptop would be less of a hassle. Why not me practice with linux as well?


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lostonearth35 wrote:
Yes, I buy food. Food is expensive. Especially nutritious food. But people need food to survive and it's one of the basic human rights.


Like Kerrygold butter?

It costs twice what the already expensive regular butter costs, but I can't taste enough of a difference to make it worth buying.



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Edna3362 wrote:
Everday food? Not really. That's already expensive by itself IMO.
If I can get away with it, I can just live in cheap pre-cooked minimum.
It's easy to get something of quality fresh and cheap here if I can cook from scratch. I just need better cooking skills to ensure any potential health investment on my part.


It seems to me that pre-cooked food is usually expensive and not very good.