cdarwin
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16 Dec 2007, 2:27 am
Well LeKiwi,
You obviously think just like me. you said,
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This world is energy. Everything is energy. There are many universes, and all are bursting with this energy - this life. Energy is everything and nothing; it's sentient, it's conscious, it thinks and moves and changes and feels... it moves with us, to our thoughts, as our thoughts are just another facet of it. It is light and love. There is no emptiness or space... just this energy we're all bound to and part of. I guess you could call that 'God'.
E=MCsquared. I mentioned this in an earlier post on this thread. Energy=Mass x The speed of light, squared. Why does that make sense? Seems a bit unusual doesn't it. How did Einstein come up with this?
When you look up at the night sky you are looking far into the past. Most of the stars you see are actually galaxies. Made of billions of suns rotating around a black whole in the center so dense not even light can escape it's gravitational pull.
When astronomers look through the Hubble telescope they can see almost to the beginning of time itself.
You are right we are all made of energy because every atom that makes us are pure energy. I find many people who call this God. but it is not the God as describe in any religion without totally twisting the basics of every faith. Many ancient religions worshiped the sun the source of energy for every living thing on this planet. Maybe they weren't far off.
Time is relative. If you live to be ten or 100it is a life. When you are young say 4 years old. 1 year seems like a very long time. When you are older years fly by. A year seem like no time at all. when you become middle aged you realize half your life is over. You wonder how long you will live. When you are very old it reverses again. If you are told you have 1 year to live that is your whole life and just like any other time in your life the rest of your life is the rest of your life and it slows down. A dog live 10 or 15 years but it is a full life right? People refer to dog years. Time is relative.
LeKiwi you said,
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I strongly believe that what we believe will happen will do. There's evidence from some scientists in Russie that our DNA changes according to what we believe, which serves to explain why people who expect themselves to be sick will become sick.
I really truly believe the statement you said above. I believe it so completely that you must be my clone. I had no idea there were two of me. I am so stunned by this statement that I can not add anything to what you said. my wife will be stunned to read your post.
Let me leave you with a couple of links that fascinate me and that you may not know about. I hope anybody that finds this thread interesting will read the following links in order.
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
http://www.globalconscious.com/
16 Dec 2007, 4:46 am
cdarwin wrote:
Ouinon, I am sorry but I have never believed in the GFCF opioid theory.
That's alright.
If I hadn't read enough scientific papers and books on the subject, aswell as first hand accounts of its effects i wouldn't either; i would just think that my own experience of the differences off and on gluten and casein were probably delusional, that i was imagining things, or neurotic. But i have now, after 15 years of interest in the subject, read enough to be fairly sure that it's "not all in the mind".
The recent AWARES conference online, on autism etc, grouping twenty odd speakers and papers, included a super one by Dr. Karl Reichelt which linked to many studies in which diet was shown to have an effect on cognitive and sensory functions. I don't know if it is free yet to look at the papers from this year; while the conference was on there was a small admin fee of £3. Anyway, def worth a look if you're interested in evidence on the subject.
However whether or not that is true is irrelevant to shamans and gurus criticisms of drug-induced feelings of world inside own head, as "empty spirituality", the experience being just a "special effect"! There is nothing necessarily "holy" or "higher understanding" about it as a perspective.
The reality creation that you describe is a belief? yes? that your thoughts determine the world/events. Just the world as it impacts on you alone, or the world for everybody?
The first theory is not that different to certain cognitive-psychology-based personal-development therapies which teach that a persons experience of the world depends on what they believe about it.
The other sounds like delusions of grandeur!! Unless you're suggesting that the world is forever the battlefield of peoples thoughts attempting to dominate the scene, which is obviously pretty much the case.
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16 Dec 2007, 1:51 pm
Ouinon, you said
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The reality creation that you describe is a belief? yes? that your thoughts determine the world/events. Just the world as it impacts on you alone, or the world for everybody?
The first theory is not that different to certain cognitive-psychology-based personal-development therapies which teach that a persons experience of the world depends on what they believe about it.
The other sounds like delusions of grandeur!! Unless you're suggesting that the world is forever the battlefield of peoples thoughts attempting to dominate the scene, which is obviously pretty much the case.
The first theory is not that different to certain cognitive-psychology-based personal-development therapies which teach that a persons experience of the world depends on what they believe about it.
The other sounds like delusions of grandeur!! Unless you're suggesting that the world is forever the battlefield of peoples thoughts attempting to dominate the scene, which is obviously pretty much the case.
Yes it is a belief, And your second question is yes as well, it impacts me, and the world around me. I have certainly had delusions of grandeur! There have been times, I thought I could create change the world with the power of my mind. The second thought about global consciousness would be a concerted effort that minds joined together, in a single thought would have more of an impact. Sometimes for the sake of my wife and family, I put these thoughts aside, and pretend that the world is real . In the back of my mind, I still believe that it is not real.
Why I posted this thread was to see if is a common belief among autistic and aspergian people. So far I have had many responses from people who also think like me. Not enough to determine if it a wide spread belief yet.
Have you read and anylized the Global Consciousness links I provided? What do you think of the Global Consciousness Project?
16 Dec 2007, 2:09 pm
cdarwin wrote:
In the back of my mind, I still believe that it is not real.
I posted this thread to see if is a common belief among autistic and aspergian people. So far I have had many responses from people who also think like me. Not enough to determine if it a wide spread belief yet.Have you read and anylized the Global Consciousness links I provided? What do you think of the Global Consciousness Project?
I posted this thread to see if is a common belief among autistic and aspergian people. So far I have had many responses from people who also think like me. Not enough to determine if it a wide spread belief yet.Have you read and anylized the Global Consciousness links I provided? What do you think of the Global Consciousness Project?
I had a look at the links you posted, and it's weird; I can see that if chose to believe in it might be pretty inspiring, like when i managed to believe for a micro instant that it was true that "there is life after death and all our sins are forgiven". That was an amazing, overwhelming feeling of joy and excitement etc at such "good news", but i couldn't keep it up, and the global consciousness seems to me to fall into same kind of group of exalting beliefs.
It's not an unreality that grabs me currently. I'm more intrigued in the possibility that a belief in god could replace my defunct executive function.
However re: others on wp who don't believe, or have difficulty believing, that the world is real; i came across a post by CrushedPentagon saying s/he felt that, on the thread "Why I think I'm an Aspie" in General Discussion. (Location:" the universe is inside my mind" I was quite struck by it because it's so much where i was until excluded wheat and dairy).
I can remember thinking a few years ago that life might be like a MMORPG, a massively multi player online role play game, and that "we" come from somewhere else, are "incarnated" in these bodies to amuse ourselves. i quite like that one, but again don't find it useful on a day to day basis.
I don't know what the purpose of this life would be if it wasn't real, if the only result of "playing" in this game was winning some quest points in another dimension for instance.( Which doesn't seem very important seen from in the game! ) Even if this world was a simulation for training purposes in a real world somewhere!
Even the thought of our being fundamentally just pure energy in an immense stream of light/energy doesn't seem as interesting to me as the huge question posed by our being "real". THAT is really mysterious.
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16 Dec 2007, 7:22 pm
cdarwin
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16 Dec 2007, 9:28 pm
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16 Dec 2007, 9:58 pm
Ouinon you wrote,
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I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this life would be if it wasn't real, winning some quest points in another dimension. Which doesn't seem very important seen from in the game!
Why must there be a purpose? There is no winning of points. My dream is that all people are considered equal.
This one is for Kitsy.
17 Dec 2007, 2:14 am
cdarwin wrote:
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I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this life would be if it wasn't real, winning some quest points in another dimension. Which doesn't seem very important seen from in the game!
Why must there be a purpose? There is no winning of points. My dream is that all people are considered equal.
I've gone back and clarified , a bit!
I meant exactly that , that winning points, or achieving some goal, in some other dimension, ( IF this one is just our creation, is just a game/simulation for instance,) does NOT seem very interesting !
You ask "why must there be a purpose?" (Yours for instance of global consciousness achieving equal rights/peace/harmony for everyone. ) I think that it's difficult to live without some kind of purpose however abstract, or mundane.
17 Dec 2007, 2:53 am
17 Dec 2007, 3:31 am
17 Dec 2007, 3:35 am
Inventor wrote:
Energy, matter, and awareness.
Converting the Universe into awareness is what is going on, a process.
Then when all was full, awareness grew, and grew,
I will admit the current phase seems iffy, but so did the ones before it.
It is going somewhere. It is not a goal, a level, but a process.
Ions joining the crystal.
Converting the Universe into awareness is what is going on, a process.
Then when all was full, awareness grew, and grew,
I will admit the current phase seems iffy, but so did the ones before it.
It is going somewhere. It is not a goal, a level, but a process.
Ions joining the crystal.
That makes much more sense. ( aspie seriousness, not sarcasm)
17 Dec 2007, 6:12 am
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17 Dec 2007, 1:57 pm
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17 Dec 2007, 6:14 pm
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17 Dec 2007, 6:28 pm
17 Dec 2007, 7:02 pm
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A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea —
Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes!*
(*Lifetide by Lyall Watson, pp. 147-148. Bantam Books 1980. This book gives other fascinating details.)
Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.
Although the exact number may very, the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the consciousness property of these people.
But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!
Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes!*
(*Lifetide by Lyall Watson, pp. 147-148. Bantam Books 1980. This book gives other fascinating details.)
Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.
Although the exact number may very, the Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the consciousness property of these people.
But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!
This article will interest you; http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... tica02.htm
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The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the artificial one The latest Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light-auras around people (namely spiritual masters), mind’s influence on weather-patterns and much more...
our DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body, but also serves as data storage and in communication....
They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow a regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human languages did not appear coincidentally but are a reflection of our inherent DNA....
The Russian scientists also found out that our DNA can cause disturbing patterns in the vacuum, thus producing magnetized wormholes! Wormholes are the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes (left by burned-out stars). These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time....
In their book Vernetzte Intelligenz (Networked Intelligence), Grazyna Gosar and Franz Bludorf explain these connections precisely and clearly. The authors also quote sources presuming that in earlier times humanity had been, just like the animals, very strongly connected to the group consciousness and acted as a group. To develop and experience individuality we humans however had to forget hyper-communication almost completely. Now that we are fairly stable in our individual consciousness, we can create a new form of group consciousness, namely one, in which we attain access to all information via our DNA, without being forced or remotely controlled about what to do with that information. We now know that just as on the internet our DNA can feed its proper data into the network, can call up data from the network and can establish contact with other participants in the network. Remote healing, telepathy or "remote sensing" about the state of relatives etc. can thus be explained. Some animals know also from afar when their owners plan to return home. That can be freshly interpreted and explained via the concepts of group consciousness and hyper-communication.
our DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body, but also serves as data storage and in communication....
They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow a regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human languages did not appear coincidentally but are a reflection of our inherent DNA....
The Russian scientists also found out that our DNA can cause disturbing patterns in the vacuum, thus producing magnetized wormholes! Wormholes are the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes (left by burned-out stars). These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time....
In their book Vernetzte Intelligenz (Networked Intelligence), Grazyna Gosar and Franz Bludorf explain these connections precisely and clearly. The authors also quote sources presuming that in earlier times humanity had been, just like the animals, very strongly connected to the group consciousness and acted as a group. To develop and experience individuality we humans however had to forget hyper-communication almost completely. Now that we are fairly stable in our individual consciousness, we can create a new form of group consciousness, namely one, in which we attain access to all information via our DNA, without being forced or remotely controlled about what to do with that information. We now know that just as on the internet our DNA can feed its proper data into the network, can call up data from the network and can establish contact with other participants in the network. Remote healing, telepathy or "remote sensing" about the state of relatives etc. can thus be explained. Some animals know also from afar when their owners plan to return home. That can be freshly interpreted and explained via the concepts of group consciousness and hyper-communication.
my attention was drawn to this via David Icke's recent books, he has been writing about infinite,collective concsiousness vs the 'matrix' for some time, and had already made the link to DNA intuitively even before this research was published (arguably they both might have discovered it simultaneously in synchronicity - id have to check the dates
)
Also consider that the ancient chinese divination/metaphysical model the Yi-Ching also mirrors the structure of DNA. I havent read much on that yet, but Terrance McKenna would probably be a good place to start.
Unfortunately im not sure if 'Vernetzte Intelligenz' the pop publication of the russian research has been translated yet (will have to check) but if you search around you can find summaries on various sites (i just pulled the above link from google quickly at random) often adding their own speculations - this one even starts talking about evolutionary autism
well, ADD anyway..
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/F ... 01569.html
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