The 20th century's biggest killers rank

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Prof_Pretorius
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04 Apr 2008, 11:29 pm

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Well, I would have to say that Uncle Joe commanded troops to kill millions of his countrymen.
If he didn't personally starve them to death, he personally gave the orders...


More accurately he was a sh***y military leader who killed his good generals, most of them actually many of them dating from the October Revolution, during WW2, allowed the border forces to be overrun and allowed 2 of his armies to be encircled near the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, rather than allowing a retreat. That and not informing his citizens when the Axis was coming, which would have been used to benefit his citizens. And things like not evacuating Stalingrad when it was under siege 'to boost morale'.

EDIT: referring to the Purges, GULAG and Ukrainian Famine (or Genocide, depending on perspective)


Ah, but after all that he sent troops to starve millions to death. I never said he was a bloody military genius ???
He was a great butcher ! ! Millions died because of his IGNORANCE ! !! !


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05 Apr 2008, 9:47 am

In the Ukrainian Terror Famine, 7 million people died between 1932-33. The borders of the country were sealed off so no food could be transported to the country. Those who survived endured the living death of seeing family members killed outright or carried away to prisons to die horrible deaths there.

I was obsessed with the Ukraine for a period of time, just after the Chernobyl disaster hit.



06 Apr 2008, 3:13 am

Ted Bundy was known to kill over 100 women but it was a secret he took to his grave.



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06 Apr 2008, 10:08 am

yes but that's nothing to the 40 000 000+ Stalin had killed during his reign
he was evil!
I know several people from those countries (Romania, Serbia, etc)
communism was a terrible thing
and still exists
its a good idea, for ants and bees
but not for people



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06 Apr 2008, 10:53 am

Stalin wrote out death orders for his own people, often indescriminantly.



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06 Apr 2008, 10:57 am

ohh yeah often for simple things like calling the Soviet Union, Russia, or saying something positive about the Tsarist times



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06 Apr 2008, 2:11 pm

Yea, a lot of people forget that Stalin killed far more people then Hitler did. And I don't think Mao actually massacred anyone in particular, it's just that in the process of increasing China's steel production he accidentally created an agricultural catastrophe in his own country and while many people saw it coming, no one was brave enough to mention it.

I might be missing something...


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06 Apr 2008, 2:37 pm

Fidel alone killed and expelled 1/4 of Cubans. Nobody has ever killed more in peacetime than commies. Communism is a disease.



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06 Apr 2008, 3:36 pm

I know for a fact Marx never had this in mind
Lenin didn't want to be preserved, or worshiped like he was
WW1 didn't help Russia's situation, nor did they're civil war with the "Whites"
He was the first Communist leader-and the least insane (it seems) from what he was trying to do



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06 Apr 2008, 3:51 pm

tomadao wrote:
The 20th century's biggest killers from the book "Death by Government".
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Joseph Stalin - 42,672,000
Mao Tse-tung - 37,828,000
Adolf Hitler - 20,946,000
Chiang Kai-shek - 10,214,000
Vladimir Lenin - 4,017,000
Tojo Hideki - 3,990,000
Pol Pot - 2,397,000
Yahya Khan - 1,500,000
Josip Tito - 1,172,000
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Only totals up to 124,736,000. That's not enough. Just slightly over 2% of the population. It would take the world less than 2 years to replace that, and that's if they were all killed at once.


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06 Apr 2008, 5:38 pm

velodog wrote:
This sounds like a job for the Auschwitz girls! 8)
So YOU're the fourth one. There was me, MissPickwickian, Irulan and another; was it you?



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07 Apr 2008, 7:11 pm

The Green River Killer
The Zodiac Killer
Pol Pot
Lenin
Stalin


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