10 Oct 2020, 11:06 pm
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10 Oct 2020, 11:27 pm
10 Oct 2020, 11:42 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
How do we know about the different alien races? Also, what are they. I know people talk about the grey's and the shape shifting lizards. What are the rest?
Well there are "the Nordics" (they look like human earthlings from Scandanavia- blue eyed and blonde).
Nordics were the ones Europeans would see while Americans would see Greys. But now Greys are the norm in Europe too.
And then...there are the short brown eyed and brown skinned ones that look like racially ambiguous models on TV commercials- or dwarf versions of that. The rest I forget.
Some years ago I stumbled upon a website that just lays them all out like Roger Tory Peterson lays out bird species. Maybe I can still find it.
Then there are other ET related phenoms. Like "the Men in Black". There was a sudden spat of bigfoot sightings in Pennsylvania that coincided with a sudden spat of UFO sightings. Some witnessed even observed bigfoots interacting with UFOs.
This sounds like it's based off anecdotal accounts from abductees?
I've heard of Nordics as Pleidians, but it just begs for questions and feels more like science fiction than anything else.
Sounds like science fiction? Yah think?
It comes from both abductees and other witnesses. Actually only the Greys abduct folks it seems. The other races (like the saucer jockeys who visited that Zimbabwe school) just walk around and check the place out. But there are atleast ten races of aliens in UFO lore according to sites I just now checked out, and one site lists 57. There are 57 kinds of everything, like flavors of ice cream. So I guess that space aliens are no exception to that law.
But now that I think about it all actual abductions I ever hear about ...going all the way back to that first case (that one couple in the mid sixties) were by Greys.
10 Oct 2020, 11:57 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Also, governments have played with psychotic inducing drugs, such as LSD, which would explain the psychosis of people.
MK Ultra. Some would say that LSD was introduced to the 60s subculture as a deliberate government psy-op. Who. Knows. Well, no we do know that the MK Ultra experiments were real.
And most of the paperwork, on MK Ultra, was put through the shredder.
adromedanblackhole wrote:
I do think there are just nutty people that exist and the government can't be blamed for it. Not every person who has psychosis or is unable to distinguish between their imagination and reality (delusional thinking) is the government's fault.
Cyber brought up a number of questions.
I will reply to him later, directly.
Some of this is speculative, of cause:
-Sightings of UFO may/would have been planned with the intention of furthering the anus-probing alien mythology.
-People would have been loaded up with LSD (Not speculative), etc, and then exposed to mannequins or people dressed up in suits, as a way to discredit their stories.
-There were experiments using computer chips implanted in the brain in order to stimulate certain parts of the brain.
(Refer to "Delgado" and his experimentations with bulls. Not speculative)
-The government can't be trusted. (Not speculative). Refer to Wikileaks.
-The government engages in "Black operations'. Not speculative.
10 Oct 2020, 11:59 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
I would have to rewatch an interview with Steven M Greer to provide any kind of meaningful quote, but on the topic of other life forms influencing humanity, the idea that we're in contact with creatures from higher dimensions is absolutely fascinating.
He/she is called "god".
11 Oct 2020, 12:24 am
Pepe wrote:
Some of this is speculative, of cause:
-Sightings of UFO may/would have been planned with the intention of furthering the anus-probing alien mythology.
-People would have been loaded up with LSD (Not speculative), etc, and then exposed to mannequins or people dressed up in suits, as a way to discredit their stories.
-There were experiments using computer chips implanted in the brain in order to stimulate certain parts of the brain.
(Refer to "Delgado" and his experimentations with bulls. Not speculative)
-The government can't be trusted. (Not speculative). Refer to Wikileaks.
-The government engages in "Black operations'. Not speculative.
-Sightings of UFO may/would have been planned with the intention of furthering the anus-probing alien mythology.
-People would have been loaded up with LSD (Not speculative), etc, and then exposed to mannequins or people dressed up in suits, as a way to discredit their stories.
-There were experiments using computer chips implanted in the brain in order to stimulate certain parts of the brain.
(Refer to "Delgado" and his experimentations with bulls. Not speculative)
-The government can't be trusted. (Not speculative). Refer to Wikileaks.
-The government engages in "Black operations'. Not speculative.
Sure. I generally see government as manifested chaos - which is ironic because they exist to control - in which it is so large and unruly the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. I feel a person can be robbed of their personal power when they direct their consciousness too deeply into the endless web of power and disinformation that circulates around these establishments. Sometimes a person can blow up the power of the government so big in their own mind that it becomes way more powerful than it actually is. Fun fact: before the fall of the USSR roughly some 70% of Russians believed the KGB had a file on them. With the fall of communism and these files declassified, the number was actually more like 12%, which don't get me wrong is still an uncomfortable number. It was more useful for the KGB to create the fear of surveillance than to actually devote manpower to surveilling it's citizens. I believe this information came from a KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov.
I need to kindly ask you to try to keep the conversation on the topic of extraterrestrial or extradimensional life forms for the sake of the thread
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11 Oct 2020, 12:25 am
Pepe wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
I would have to rewatch an interview with Steven M Greer to provide any kind of meaningful quote, but on the topic of other life forms influencing humanity, the idea that we're in contact with creatures from higher dimensions is absolutely fascinating.
He/she is called "god".
I may have mentioned in this thread already that the story of the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt very much sounds like a contact account.
11 Oct 2020, 12:35 am
naturalplastic wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
How do we know about the different alien races? Also, what are they. I know people talk about the grey's and the shape shifting lizards. What are the rest?
Well there are "the Nordics" (they look like human earthlings from Scandanavia- blue eyed and blonde).
Nordics were the ones Europeans would see while Americans would see Greys. But now Greys are the norm in Europe too.
And then...there are the short brown eyed and brown skinned ones that look like racially ambiguous models on TV commercials- or dwarf versions of that. The rest I forget.
Some years ago I stumbled upon a website that just lays them all out like Roger Tory Peterson lays out bird species. Maybe I can still find it.
Then there are other ET related phenoms. Like "the Men in Black". There was a sudden spat of bigfoot sightings in Pennsylvania that coincided with a sudden spat of UFO sightings. Some witnessed even observed bigfoots interacting with UFOs.
This sounds like it's based off anecdotal accounts from abductees?
I've heard of Nordics as Pleidians, but it just begs for questions and feels more like science fiction than anything else.
Sounds like science fiction? Yah think?
It comes from both abductees and other witnesses. Actually only the Greys abduct folks it seems. The other races (like the saucer jockeys who visited that Zimbabwe school) just walk around and check the place out. But there are atleast ten races of aliens in UFO lore according to sites I just now checked out, and one site lists 57. There are 57 kinds of everything, like flavors of ice cream. So I guess that space aliens are no exception to that law.
But now that I think about it all actual abductions I ever hear about ...going all the way back to that first case (that one couple in the mid sixties) were by Greys.
I feel like Greer mentioned that about the grey's
Again, I'm not sold on this being real
Or the claims that DMT is used as an intermediary to communicate with higher dimensional life forms that allegedly are assisting in mankind's evolution.
11 Oct 2020, 1:25 am
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11 Oct 2020, 6:51 am
adromedanblackhole wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Well, actually I believe in UFOs.
I just don't believe in UFOs from outer space being here and probing our collective anuses.
I just don't believe in UFOs from outer space being here and probing our collective anuses.
I'm undecided when it comes to abductions. I want to say sure, but I've also met people in real life who verrrrrrry clearly had just an overall break with reality who made incredibly ludicrous claims. So I'm fine with the idea that it's possible some of those stories are real, and it's possible some of those stories are people with very intense delusions where they can't distinguish between reality and their imagination.
Most of me thinks that the majority of contact stories sound flaky as hell. But there's part of me that goes:
If some random human encountered a genuinely alien intelligence, you'd expect the alien's behaviour and motives to be bizarre and inexplicable. Different species, different minds. And you'd expect the human to try and make sense of it all with some confused ad-hoc explanation that breaks with consensus reality. Because ascribing motivations to things is what humans do. We even do it to the weather.
11 Oct 2020, 10:31 am
PhosphorusDecree wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Well, actually I believe in UFOs.
I just don't believe in UFOs from outer space being here and probing our collective anuses.
I just don't believe in UFOs from outer space being here and probing our collective anuses.
I'm undecided when it comes to abductions. I want to say sure, but I've also met people in real life who verrrrrrry clearly had just an overall break with reality who made incredibly ludicrous claims. So I'm fine with the idea that it's possible some of those stories are real, and it's possible some of those stories are people with very intense delusions where they can't distinguish between reality and their imagination.
Most of me thinks that the majority of contact stories sound flaky as hell. But there's part of me that goes:
If some random human encountered a genuinely alien intelligence, you'd expect the alien's behaviour and motives to be bizarre and inexplicable. Different species, different minds. And you'd expect the human to try and make sense of it all with some confused ad-hoc explanation that breaks with consensus reality. Because ascribing motivations to things is what humans do. We even do it to the weather.
Exactly. And some of the alternative explanations are just as difficult to buy such as every instance is a pure fabrication with no basis in reality. It's impossible for me to be the arbiter that determines which stories sound real and which just sound totally insane. But I met someone once who had claims about the government hacking her husband's consciousness while he slept and put him through various obstacle courses in his dreams and he woke up walking around an area that was a mile from his house. To which I said, oh, so he sleep walks. No, that was NOT the case. It was the government. Duh. This person just had VERY unstable energy, of course also has contact stories with aliens. I'm content believing that many abduction stories are people like this, but not all.
11 Oct 2020, 10:46 am
11 Oct 2020, 10:23 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
DMT?
All stems from Aldous Huxley experimenting with LSD opening the mind to contacting interdimensional beings
I haven't read The Doors of Perception to know if he discusses the myriad of Amazonian tribes that have used ayahuasca for shamanic healing for centuries maybe millennia, but allegedly some in the West who have used it claim with their elevated consciousness they made contact with other worldly creatures and saw some things in the skies etc. Ayahuasca is a brew of two different vines that produces a DMT effect that can last 6+ hours. DMT on its own has an effect that lasts no more than a few minutes.
There's an updated version written by Graham Hancock called "Supernatural" where he converses with such beings while high on ayahuasca.
I myself have spoken such beings who visited my dreams and predicted COVID19 but that's another strory
