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Disagree.
"Psychopaths are born...
Sociopaths are made..."

I'm sure that's not what Kraftie implied.

It is possible to be bullied, not handle it, and not go on a murdering spree.

I'm living proof of that! As is Kraftie, and many others.

And I most certainly do not believe being bullied is character building. It f***s people up. I can understand why someone would kill themselves, but I don't understand why they would kill innocent people.

There indeed is a plan to such evil; and it gets mocked and ridiculed and dismissed because it is not 'scientifically provable' to a western materialistic world which is so very much smarter than that mythological spiritual nonsense.

And because the ultimate roots of this kind of inhuman violence are in the spiritual world, the laws and activism and policies and programs and services of the material world will only ever have a degree of effect on the thing, they can not fully stop it.

Here at 1am with a quite painful defective body and insomnia and a severe thunderstorm threatening to cut off either the internet or the electricity or both at any moment, I can offer nothing to substantiate to anyone's satisfaction that which I just said.
And then I will dare to proclaim with no supporting documentation that it will eventually be shown true.
Mark my words, it will eventually be shown true.

That being said, there does need to be productive action taken about someone the shooter's age being able to buy a couple guns and so much ammunition in a short time.
Houston, we have a problem ...

The deciding factor is the known thing about anger turned inward versus anger turned outward.

Sociopaths are made, but it's by their own choice.
They need to have Antisocial Personality Disorder as a breeding ground for those choices.

Ramos fits the bill, based on what I have heard so far:

https://www.mha-em.org/im-looking-for/m ... sociopathy

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+ca ... nt=gws-wiz

If he was an unstable sociopath why was he allowed to buy a weapon of war?
Personally I think he was a psychopath, but either way -- why wasn't he flagged?
He must have had some contact with mental health or children's services in his life.

Were the bullies who created this sociopath flagged?

As what long term and somewhat relentless bullying can do and lead the person being bullied to do -- I'll tell a couple stories on me,

1.
Along about 8th or 9th grade in a situations where the response from the adults I asked for help was pretty much, "Oh don't be so sensitive" and "They are teasing you because they like you." there finally came a day where at the end of one school day it was, "That's enough, I'm done. DONE."
The extreme contrasts in emotion and action happening in the space of a couple minutes still strikes me today multiple decades later.
I went in to an open classroom across from our lockers, set my books and notebooks on the American History teacher's desk and said, "Would you please watch my books while I stuff ______ in his locker."
The teacher and a couple students still in the room just kinda looked at me.
I went back out in to the hall, and with a big hit of adrenaline did indeed rather violently stuff ____ in to his own locker.
Put his padlock in the door, locked it.
Walked back in to the classroom, said something along the lines of, "Thanks for watching my books. Y'all have a good evening."
Headed home without looking back.
There was no call to the Principal's office the next day; no detention; no suspension; I never heard another thing about the event until a few years later my Dad said to me that the teachers and administration were so shocked by the quiet nerdy kid doing THAT that they had no idea what to do with me.
Interestingly the bullying pretty much vanished.

2.
Several years later in another place, it hit the point that I went outside, ripped up some bricks from the parking lot edging and started putting them through the windows.
That event brought on a trip to the psych ward that very afternoon.
90 days later when the insurance coverage ran out they still didn't know what mental thing to diagnose me with.
Maybe because there wasn't a mental illness to diagnose, just a hell of a lot of emotional pain?????

Anyway, back to Uvalde,
at least there was not that kind of thing in my life,
"
All the while, Ramos’s family life was also reportedly crumbling, much like his social life.

Two months ago, Ramos posted an Instagram story video in which he could be heard screaming at his mother, who had a substance abuse problem, according to The Post.

According to neighbors who spoke with the Post, it was not uncommon to see the police at Ramos’s house.

“I think he needed mental help. And more closure with his family. And love,” said Stephen Garcia, who considered himself Ramos’s best friend in middle school.
"
ABC 7 News
Texas shooter struggled with mental health, family dysfunction, was fascinated with guns
by ALEC SCHEMMEL | The National DeskWednesday, May 25th 2022
https://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/tex ... ando-ramos

Fair point.

Outward anger makes sense if it's directed towards the bullies.

Anger toward one thing is easily hijacked when there is other chaos in life, and fed to become more extreme and to be pushed in other directions.
And that is where anger then moves beyond the sensible boundary.

This is how brainwashing tactics work.
"Bait and switch."

Okay this is odd…. Now news here reports on KTLA at 3:40 am on wed. June 1 that the police would not take out the boy with the gun. But a Border Patrol Team intervened and shot and killed the young man .
Fun and interesting plot twists as we go along with this .
Seems almost a recipe for radicalizing the boy was in the works ?
(Where was the “five eyes , Echelon” system during all this ) .
{ Five eyes= international security surveillance system , between USA and Australia and 3 other countries for
International security for internal And external security intensive mass surveillance.} from the 1990s. .

I don’t believe bullying is “character-building.”

I just believe he shouldn’t have taken his being bullied out on those little kids. What’s wrong with that notion?

I believe he was a homicidal maniac. I don’t believe anybody here is showing any sympathy for the homicidal maniac.

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