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19 Apr 2020, 9:12 pm

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He was well-adjusted, before the bogus allegations which several courts showed were false- basic FACTS didn't match with accusers' claims - as well as 16 years of FBI phone tapping and investigations as well as surprise police raids as well as the accusers' own confessions prior to his death (then claiming for estate much more) , as well as his sister who was literally kidnapped and threatened beaten etc (documented) to echo it - etc came about and even so, anyone else would have committed suicide. Look up Square One Documentary for a basic primer if you don't want to read about it in depth like I have.

I know enough about it at this point to not take what you said lying down. The rest of his family might not be the most well-adjusted though esp a couple of the brothers who beat their wives repeatedly.


I'm certainly not placing blame, he was a stronger person than I've ever been to deal with his situation as a child. His entire run as a solo entertainer represents a huge achievement on it's own, ignoring that most child stars are done growing long before they're done growing. I don't imagine anyone could have had that experience and remained 'well-adjusted'. But, he was even weirder than me, and I'm eccentric by most people's standards, so it's fair to call a spade a spade.


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19 Apr 2020, 9:16 pm

He was like the gifted kids at the schools I've been to (i was not among them but a keen observer), eccentric certainly-
but not in the way you might be implying.


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19 Apr 2020, 9:31 pm

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He was like the gifted kids at the schools I've been to (i was not among them but a keen observer), eccentric certainly-
but not in the way you might be implying.


You're not even sure I'm implying something, but I'm already wrong about it. :P


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19 Apr 2020, 9:37 pm

LOL

uhhh uhhh... :oops:

I assumed a knee-jerk reaction relating to the bogus stuff.

anyway the more bad is ascribed to someone innocent,
the more of the people's (who say bad stuff about them) good deeds they get. that's what i believe.
so his will be a mountain at this point.

although idk how many good deeds a tabloid journalist has in the first place, i guess theirs just go into the minuses..

i prob relinquished to my old lawyer a mountain of good deeds too at this point... i'm probably in the minus range now...


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19 Apr 2020, 9:58 pm

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LOL

uhhh uhhh... :oops:

I assumed a knee-jerk reaction relating to the bogus stuff.

anyway the more bad is ascribed to someone innocent,
the more of the people's (who say bad stuff about them) good deeds they get. that's what i believe.
so his will be a mountain at this point.

although idk how many good deeds a tabloid journalist has in the first place, i guess theirs just go into the minuses..

i prob relinquished to my old lawyer a mountain of good deeds too at this point... i'm probably in the minus range now...


I haven't researched the details extensively in ages and I spent most of my childhood/teenhood on the fence. I don't believe that if some of the allegations are credible that they all must be, or that if some are likely not, that none of them could be. I don't know, I don't imagine superfans choosing to ruin their idol's reputation baselessly, but I also feel like he was an obvious enough target that I'm not willing to accept them entirely. I don't know and it's a shame that the two can't be untangled from each other and any attempts will end up with more people upset before you're done than if it was just left alone entirely.

I feel terrible for his kids, regardless of what's true and what's not; it's not their burden to bear but how can they not?
I feel terrible for any hypothetical victims, like I can barely conceive of not wanting to conceal that because you would understand the risks if it becoming known and whether you're a victim or an accomplice would feel shame, obligation or both to not say anything. That's a horrific burden to place, hypothetically.
If it's not true I feel overwhelmingly horrible for Michael, because that's among the worst slanders one could make in our society.
Even if it is true, I still feel some sort of empathy because like.... he was barely an adult when his solo career was taking off, if you know your artist is prone to potential third-rail level self-destructive behaviour, you find him someone close enough in age that no one asks about it and you impress upon them the importance of not destroying things because it's not just for him at that point, it's for a lot of people emotionally and financially invested in him.

But, I don't know and for as opinionated as I usually am, it's really hard to know for certain, and I feel that since it's a mess of claims with varying degrees of substantiation, that I'm not confident enough with what I think I know to want to try to untangle the mess.

And you've probably seen the things I will argue over. :nerdy:

Since you're probably more emotionally invested I don't want to dig-in on it. I stopped listening to pop music around the same time the first wave of accusations came out, but stayed pretty sure he was innocent until the second set. That was the mom who had a history of profiting from questionable lawsuits. The more recent ones with the guys who made their accusations as adults swung me closer to believing the first set and them, but still more skeptical about the 2nd one.

If you enjoy his music I won't judge, I've got some people who express some pretty horrible opinions and some people who've done some pretty horrible things mixed into my music catalogue and Varg Vikernes ain't even the worst of 'em.


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19 Apr 2020, 10:12 pm

I'm not emotionally invested as I was convinced he was guilty of just some if not all - and I was not a fan till I found he WASN'T. I saw rejecting the claims as victim-blaming so I just accepted it as truth

I was always put off by his face mainly and never looked into his work, as I assumed popular people are gross.
I didn't even know his music. Anything I'd heard of his was incidental, e.g. school, background song in a tv scene...
and I didn't know it was by him in the first place.

I looked into it because I thought it was a good way of learning how people groom their victims. There is no doubt it is false. Not one shred. I can swear on my elder son (who is an angelic person)'s life about this that's how certain it is.

I am emotionally invested in the sense I am more impressed by how he handled it as I have been falsely accused many times of equally opposite to my nature things including child abuse--- and know what it is like.


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19 Apr 2020, 10:14 pm

Music is something I am not interested in. I am interested in the people behind the music, or the lyrics, if anything. I grew up being told music is wrong, so I can tell you it's not about that.


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19 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm

Even though my other four senses are sensitive, my sense of smell is not.


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20 Apr 2020, 5:56 am

Something that occurred to me and has been nagging at me this morning is where I wrote:

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i prob relinquished to my old lawyer a mountain of good deeds too at this point... i'm probably in the minus range now...


That implies that I lied about/slandered that person, which is not the case.

I just want to write (though nobody cares but me) that in my religion, the good deeds going to the other person thing usually applies to when you unnecessarily say things about a person behind their back that you know they wouldn't like.
(aka. Backbiting, not just slander.)


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20 Apr 2020, 9:30 am

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Even though my other four senses are sensitive, my sense of smell is not.


Interesting! My husband is similar.
I am almost always overwhelmed by all of my senses! I sometimes wish they would give me a break.


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22 Apr 2020, 10:53 am

I'd like ice-cream, chocolate would be good
Ice-cream that tastes just like it should!
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22 Apr 2020, 4:16 pm

I think that the word "arsenic" is funny when means human's rear end, especially rear end covered with nasty-smelling intestinal goo. And human "arsenical vapors" are also amusing for me.

The sentence "he kicked him in the arsenic" could made me laugh.



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22 Apr 2020, 6:17 pm

I have 1 eardrum that doesnt work bcuz my funny one stabbed a pencil in that ear when I was lying down.


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22 Apr 2020, 6:57 pm

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I have 1 eardrum that doesnt work bcuz my funny one stabbed a pencil in that ear when I was lying down.


That's horrible. *hug*
I assume it was at least before he could have comprehended how serious that is? 8O

I don't want to make the post I had planned yet, I'm suddenly not in the mood for making lame jokes. (this might also count as further proof that it's the end of the world as we know it)


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22 Apr 2020, 7:08 pm

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 668035002/

This medical malpractice is unforgivable and it is irreparable. It ruined my body and life

I think this is the main reason for Post partum depression if hospitals actually compiled data which they are not required to do. And suicide is still illegal


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22 Apr 2020, 7:26 pm

I identify as a comedic duo.


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