20 Oct 2020, 7:51 pm
20 Oct 2020, 7:56 pm
cyberdad wrote:
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
I don't get why most mainstream scientists are so hostile to the idea of ETs visiting Earth and other paranormal phenomena. It seems arrogant to think that science, as it exists today, has all of the answers.
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As an ex-scientist I can offer one perspective. The first thing science students learn is a principle called "occam's razor" put simply "all things being equal, the simplest explanation is the most likely"
Cosmologist and space scientist Carl Sagan was even more specific when relating occam's razor to the paranormal (he was specifically referring to aliens but it applies to all paranormal phenomena) that Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
I suspect from the renaissance that science has naturally been antagonistic toward beliefs that are unable to supported through observation. especially given the earliest scientists often ended up being burned at the stake by the church for their support for the principles of science.
However I think the evidence Sagan was talking about can be seen if these guys choose to examine the data. But as you correctly pointed out, the western scientific paradigm has not caught up with the evidence. At this stage the only thing that will convince a tenured scientist that advanced aliens beings exist is if one walked into the Whitehouse and says "take me to your leader"
D'oh!
20 Oct 2020, 9:10 pm
Pepe wrote:
adromedanblackhole wrote:
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
"Ancient Aliens" used to be one of my favorite programs. They provided plenty of evidence for this theory. I am not sure I believe all that the show said 100%, but I keep an open mind. I think it's at least possible that an advanced civilization had a hand in humanity's development. I don't know why it would be impossible. I have a strong background in science, but I don't get why most mainstream scientists are so hostile to the idea of ETs visiting Earth and other paranormal phenomena. It seems arrogant to think that science, as it exists today, has all of the answers.
I have a huge obsession with the paranormal and the unexplained. I have ever since I was a little kid.
I have a huge obsession with the paranormal and the unexplained. I have ever since I was a little kid.
I feel like the unconscious motivator to being SO opposed to alien theories is actually a revelation into the person's own psyche/ego.
They want to believe that humanity is the crowning achievement of evolution all on its own, probably a reflection of the way they view themselves, i.e. they see themselves typically as a highly advanced human and feel they owe no credit to anyone else but their own sheer brilliance.
In my experience this has been the snapshot of the people I've known who are so committed to disproving alien theories or the idea that there was some kind of assistance in man's evolution.
Yes, I am brilliant, but that is beside the point.
I have no passionate need to debunk alien contribution.
I simply use critical thinking and my reasoning ability to consider possibilities.
Also, have you considered the possibility of "overlap"?
Some incidences of alien involvement may be bogus.
Some may be genuine.
I wasn't referencing you. You are fairly open minded. There are numerous instances throughout this thread where I made it fairly clear I am not dogmatic on the subject, so yes, I've considered the possibility of overlap.
20 Oct 2020, 9:21 pm
Pepe wrote:
Occam's Razer? 
More like this Pepe
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20 Oct 2020, 9:48 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
Ah yes the great mystery
From death springs forth life
The circle completes
From death springs forth life
The circle completes
The Phoenix arises.
20 Oct 2020, 9:50 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Like the circle of life....from poo comes the grass....
Poo + grass seeds + water = grass.
20 Oct 2020, 9:51 pm
Pepe wrote:
D'oh!
20 Oct 2020, 10:36 pm
20 Oct 2020, 11:56 pm
20 Oct 2020, 11:58 pm
adromedanblackhole wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Like the circle of life....from poo comes the grass....
Was it this thread you posted the info on the declassed remote viewing experiments? Would you mind reposting?
Ooooo, goody!
MK Ultra type stuff. <rub paws with glee>
20 Oct 2020, 11:59 pm
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