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21 Oct 2020, 7:35 pm

Where occam's razor doesnt always work is when there is a phenomena that can't be explained using our current experience or knowledge.

The stumbling block here is to automatically discredit or invalidate data because it doesn't fit a known paradigm. Instead of carful observation or further investigation what you have is walls/obstacles put in the path of justifiable questions.

I imagine the thinkers of the renaissance faced similar obstacles.



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22 Oct 2020, 8:07 am

cyberdad wrote:
Where occam's razor doesnt always work is when there is a phenomena that can't be explained using our current experience or knowledge.

The stumbling block here is to automatically discredit or invalidate data because it doesn't fit a known paradigm. Instead of carful observation or further investigation what you have is walls/obstacles put in the path of justifiable questions.

I imagine the thinkers of the renaissance faced similar obstacles.

Absolutely. Well said, Cyberdad.


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22 Oct 2020, 6:26 pm

AspiePrincess611 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Where occam's razor doesnt always work is when there is a phenomena that can't be explained using our current experience or knowledge.

The stumbling block here is to automatically discredit or invalidate data because it doesn't fit a known paradigm. Instead of carful observation or further investigation what you have is walls/obstacles put in the path of justifiable questions.

I imagine the thinkers of the renaissance faced similar obstacles.

Absolutely. Well said, Cyberdad.


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23 Oct 2020, 1:13 am

Aliens have taken a keen interest in Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... ufo-story/
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... gram-post/

Perhaps the new human-alien hybrids are also going to be able sing and twerk which will be a great addition when the new-earth is established.



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24 Oct 2020, 4:25 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Aliens have taken a keen interest in Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... ufo-story/
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... gram-post/

Perhaps the new human-alien hybrids are also going to be able sing and twerk which will be a great addition when the new-earth is established.

I'm not entirely kidding that Miley Cyrus is potentially demon-possessed
I don't even necessarily believe in demons, Miley gives me reason to challenge that belief...



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24 Oct 2020, 5:35 pm

adromedanblackhole wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Aliens have taken a keen interest in Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... ufo-story/
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... gram-post/

Perhaps the new human-alien hybrids are also going to be able sing and twerk which will be a great addition when the new-earth is established.

I'm not entirely kidding that Miley Cyrus is potentially demon-possessed
I don't even necessarily believe in demons, Miley gives me reason to challenge that belief...


"Possession" is the result of hypnotic abuse, imo. 8)



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24 Oct 2020, 6:18 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Aliens have taken a keen interest in Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... ufo-story/
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... gram-post/

Perhaps the new human-alien hybrids are also going to be able sing and twerk which will be a great addition when the new-earth is established.


Well...after seeing some of Cyrus's twerking videos you cant blame the alien for thinking that...



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24 Oct 2020, 8:35 pm

A slight change of direction.

To illustrate a possible example of remote viewing

I was watching "Hotboxin with Mike Tyson" and he interviewed an MMA fighter named Justin Wren.

Wren's life is a topic worth exploring but there's one interesting experience he had that's worth sharing.

Before each fight Justin Wren's coach would use a technique called "visualisation" where he would ask Wren to enter a meditative state to visualise what it would be like enter the ring and face his opponent. He was ask to imagine the temperature, the scene, sounds of the crowd, the smells, how he was feeling as walked toward his opponent. He was asked to imagine how his opponent would come at him and what would happen if he responded in a particular way.

Wren became hooked on drugs and was taking LSD. As with a lot of people who take LSD he would hallucinate but afterward he didn't take his visions seriously as he was under the influence. He went through a program and was 11 months off LSD and clean enough began fighting again.

When his coach got Wren to go through visualisation again ahead of his first fight instead of imagining the fight he suddenly had visions of being in a jungle in Africa and being present in front of pygmy people. Wren grew up in Fortworth Texas and had never in his wildest dreams thought about Africa. But he kept having these same visions everytime he did the visualisation exercise. In one vision he tried talking to the pygmy and was told they were the forgotten people.

By coincidence he ran into a collaborator of the Bear Grylls TV series who was also his friend. When he told his friend of his vision he was shocked! he said he was going to the Congo to do a TV series to live among the Pygmy people. He asked Wren if he wanted to come. Wren agreed,

When they arrived in African after travelling by road in Congo for a few weeks they arrived in the village deep in the Congo, The walk through the forest leading up to seeing the pygmy was familiar to Wren because it was the same scene he had been seeing in his visions. His friend translated and Wren asked the man whom he remembered from his vision what their tribe was called? the little man replied with a local tribal name but now they call themselves by a different name. Wren was confused? what is their new name. The man replied we are called the forgotten people. Wren's vision came true.

There's a lot more to the story but I'll just share this bit because I think it illustrates that remote viewing is a capability that we all have but it requires priming the brain to project. In the case of Justin Wren he unintentionally primed his mind to project or remotely view a village in Africa.

He was already conditioned to practice visualisation after years of MMA fighting and perhaps the LSD activated a part of his brain that when he returned to fighting opened up and he was remote viewing. The only thing was he was not in control of what he was viewing but perhaps without realising he has given insight into how the mind could be trained to be capable of doing things that we are currently ignorant about.



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24 Oct 2020, 11:49 pm

cyberdad wrote:
A slight change of direction.

To illustrate a possible example of remote viewing

I was watching "Hotboxin with Mike Tyson" and he interviewed an MMA fighter named Justin Wren.

Wren's life is a topic worth exploring but there's one interesting experience he had that's worth sharing.

Before each fight Justin Wren's coach would use a technique called "visualisation" where he would ask Wren to enter a meditative state to visualise what it would be like enter the ring and face his opponent. He was ask to imagine the temperature, the scene, sounds of the crowd, the smells, how he was feeling as walked toward his opponent. He was asked to imagine how his opponent would come at him and what would happen if he responded in a particular way.

Wren became hooked on drugs and was taking LSD. As with a lot of people who take LSD he would hallucinate but afterward he didn't take his visions seriously as he was under the influence. He went through a program and was 11 months off LSD and clean enough began fighting again.

When his coach got Wren to go through visualisation again ahead of his first fight instead of imagining the fight he suddenly had visions of being in a jungle in Africa and being present in front of pygmy people. Wren grew up in Fortworth Texas and had never in his wildest dreams thought about Africa. But he kept having these same visions everytime he did the visualisation exercise. In one vision he tried talking to the pygmy and was told they were the forgotten people.

By coincidence he ran into a collaborator of the Bear Grylls TV series who was also his friend. When he told his friend of his vision he was shocked! he said he was going to the Congo to do a TV series to live among the Pygmy people. He asked Wren if he wanted to come. Wren agreed,

When they arrived in African after travelling by road in Congo for a few weeks they arrived in the village deep in the Congo, The walk through the forest leading up to seeing the pygmy was familiar to Wren because it was the same scene he had been seeing in his visions. His friend translated and Wren asked the man whom he remembered from his vision what their tribe was called? the little man replied with a local tribal name but now they call themselves by a different name. Wren was confused? what is their new name. The man replied we are called the forgotten people. Wren's vision came true.

There's a lot more to the story but I'll just share this bit because I think it illustrates that remote viewing is a capability that we all have but it requires priming the brain to project. In the case of Justin Wren he unintentionally primed his mind to project or remotely view a village in Africa.

He was already conditioned to practice visualisation after years of MMA fighting and perhaps the LSD activated a part of his brain that when he returned to fighting opened up and he was remote viewing. The only thing was he was not in control of what he was viewing but perhaps without realising he has given insight into how the mind could be trained to be capable of doing things that we are currently ignorant about.

I hope I'm your friend your posts are kewl



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25 Oct 2020, 1:16 am

The purpose of my post was to leave the door open to phenomena like remote viewing. I think the University of Arizona actually have a research institute that looks into remote viewing research with possible applications in intelligence agencies and police searches for missing people.



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25 Oct 2020, 1:24 am

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The purpose of my post was to leave the door open to phenomena like remote viewing. I think the University of Arizona actually have a research institute that looks into remote viewing research with possible applications in intelligence agencies and police searches for missing people.

So, I'll take that as a no then...
When a person over explains something - explaining something that doesn't need to be explained - even if they're not speaking their text takes a condescending tone. A condescending tone is one where a person exhibits a posture in a conversation to demonstrate they have a feeling of patronizing superiority. Hope that helps.



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25 Oct 2020, 1:52 am

adromedanblackhole wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The purpose of my post was to leave the door open to phenomena like remote viewing. I think the University of Arizona actually have a research institute that looks into remote viewing research with possible applications in intelligence agencies and police searches for missing people.

So, I'll take that as a no then...
When a person over explains something - explaining something that doesn't need to be explained - even if they're not speaking their text takes a condescending tone. A condescending tone is one where a person exhibits a posture in a conversation to demonstrate they have a feeling of patronizing superiority. Hope that helps.


huh? I am at a complete loss about what you are talking about.



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27 Oct 2020, 12:03 am

Eh, don't worry about it
I'm extra sensitive all the time about everything



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27 Oct 2020, 12:07 am

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adromedanblackhole wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Aliens have taken a keen interest in Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... ufo-story/
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... gram-post/

Perhaps the new human-alien hybrids are also going to be able sing and twerk which will be a great addition when the new-earth is established.

I'm not entirely kidding that Miley Cyrus is potentially demon-possessed
I don't even necessarily believe in demons, Miley gives me reason to challenge that belief...


"Possession" is the result of hypnotic abuse, imo. 8)

Are you referencing the conspiracy that the music industry is a cult of the "Illuminati" and that the performers are brainwashed participants in the collective hypnosis of mankind with absolute garbage radio wave pollution...
Miley Cyrus would definitely qualify. Uhhh I was watching an interview with her recently the girl just freaks me out.



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27 Oct 2020, 2:09 am

adromedanblackhole wrote:
Eh, don't worry about it
I'm extra sensitive all the time about everything


No problems, I'll keep the fires of this thread (and our blossoming friendship) burning along :D



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27 Oct 2020, 2:14 am

Collective hypnosis? Its interesting that people with medical degrees are intensely interested in how peoples minds are taken over
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2014 ... -possessed