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11 Jul 2011, 10:08 am

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Good afternoon Randomers. I hope you are all well today.

Grisha, I'm sorry to hear about your credit cards. Do you think they are doing it the same way each time, or is it just a coincidence? It's horrible when that happens.


Well the first time was not surprising, because I used my card whilst was on vacation in Ukraine, the second time was in April where someone bought almost $1,000 worth of mechandise (including $250 worth of Godiva chocolate!) online. The third time was this morning when somebody bought $50 worth of stuff at Walmart.com

The second two may be the same person, because they steal from the same place using the same stolen identity.

The bank gives me all the money back, but I still have to go through the hassle of getting my card replaced and updating all my accounts.

I am not letting it go this time, I will find this person and show them to the police - they have to have supplied their shipping address, right?


Yes, the credit card company should have the details of the thief. When it's happened to me before I've just signed something to say it wasn't me that used it, and I assumed that the credit card company would share the details with the police and press charges on the culprits? It depends if you can find out yourself what address they used.

The last time it happened to me, they spent £700 on a holiday, plus other things. I was quite envious of their travel plans, but I don't know how they thought they would get away with it.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:09 am

They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?



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11 Jul 2011, 10:12 am

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They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?


Yes, I hadn't thought of that. I'm surprised companies would accept PO Boxes as delivery addresses. There can't be many people who order 250 dollars worth of chocolate to a PO Box.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:14 am

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They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?


Yes, I hadn't thought of that. I'm surprised companies would accept PO Boxes as delivery addresses. There can't be many people who order 250 dollars worth of chocolate to a PO Box.


True. I have no idea if they would. I'd just think it'd be a smart move to have somewhere untraceable if you were being sneaky.
But I suppose criminals aren't known for being that smart. :lol:



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11 Jul 2011, 10:15 am

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Ugh, was perseverating all night last night, only got 3 hours of sleep.


I know the feeling, my mind wouldn't stop last night, aided by the constant tickle in my throat :evil:

Sorry to hear of your hassle Grisha, the nerve of some people.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:17 am

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They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?


Yes, I hadn't thought of that. I'm surprised companies would accept PO Boxes as delivery addresses. There can't be many people who order 250 dollars worth of chocolate to a PO Box.


True. I have no idea if they would. I'd just think it'd be a smart move to have somewhere untraceable if you were being sneaky.
But I suppose criminals aren't known for being that smart. :lol:


Plus the chocolate would melt. Or is a PO Box not really a box? I have an image in my mind of a rectangular shaped metal box.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:19 am

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They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?


Yes, I hadn't thought of that. I'm surprised companies would accept PO Boxes as delivery addresses. There can't be many people who order 250 dollars worth of chocolate to a PO Box.


True. I have no idea if they would. I'd just think it'd be a smart move to have somewhere untraceable if you were being sneaky.
But I suppose criminals aren't known for being that smart. :lol:


Plus the chocolate would melt. Or is a PO Box not really a box? I have an image in my mind of a rectangular shaped metal box.


Yeah, I think they're like that. At least in my mind they are. :lol:
Hmmm. Would work maybe if you ordered something small like jewellery though.
I'll stop thinking like i'm going to steal someones credit card details now. :wink:



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11 Jul 2011, 10:20 am

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They could have used a PO Box. They can be rented out anonymously, right?


Yes, but it would still have to be physically in the vicinity of the thief, which when combined with other clues might ID the perp.

Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:24 am

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Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.


Ah ok. If you are going to turn PI please be careful. I would be sad if you became the victim of a particularly unpleasant chocolate thief.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:28 am

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Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.


Ah ok. If you are going to turn PI please be careful. I would be sad if you became the victim of a particularly unpleasant chocolate thief.


Well they already know who I am, where I live, and my (now useless) credit card numbers, what's the difference?



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11 Jul 2011, 10:38 am

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Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.


Ah ok. If you are going to turn PI please be careful. I would be sad if you became the victim of a particularly unpleasant chocolate thief.


Well they already know who I am, where I live, and my (now useless) credit card numbers, what's the difference?


Well there's a difference between being a passive victim, and an assertive person trying to find out information about them and get them prosecuted. But I'm just being daft I know.



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11 Jul 2011, 10:45 am

Damn. I always seem to be in transition!


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11 Jul 2011, 10:45 am

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Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.


Ah ok. If you are going to turn PI please be careful. I would be sad if you became the victim of a particularly unpleasant chocolate thief.


Well they already know who I am, where I live, and my (now useless) credit card numbers, what's the difference?


Well there's a difference between being a passive victim, and an assertive person trying to find out information about them and get them prosecuted. But I'm just being daft I know.


Well I really appreciate your concern! :)

After I've calmed down a bit, I'm sure I'll forget about it - but I am definitely paying for things differently now...



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11 Jul 2011, 11:05 am

Grisha wrote:
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Assuming it's the same person, it has to be someone to whom I provided enough information to complete a fraudulent transaction, twice, which is a finite list.

@Henbane - The banks don't care, it's the merchant who takes the loss, which ultimately gets passed on to consumers via higher prices. Apparently the police are rarely even notified unless you go to the trouble of filing a police report personally.


Ah ok. If you are going to turn PI please be careful. I would be sad if you became the victim of a particularly unpleasant chocolate thief.


Well they already know who I am, where I live, and my (now useless) credit card numbers, what's the difference?


Well there's a difference between being a passive victim, and an assertive person trying to find out information about them and get them prosecuted. But I'm just being daft I know.


Well I really appreciate your concern! :)

After I've calmed down a bit, I'm sure I'll forget about it - but I am definitely paying for things differently now...


I can understand how you feel. There are some real scumbags in the world.



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11 Jul 2011, 11:14 am

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11 Jul 2011, 11:16 am

... remember when spaghetti was basketti? :lol: good times :)