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07 Dec 2009, 6:25 pm

Sorry guy, but I think drunk driving is worse than some of the things you mentioned. D: Please don't be a loser.
I haven't been to jail, but it was a close call once when I got caught shoplifting and they searched my bag, found a little jar of sea salt and mistook it for something else. But backup took forever to arrive, and by that time the security guy had decided he believed me when I said it was salt, so they let me go. OTL;;;

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07 Dec 2009, 6:35 pm

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I don't think they could legally do that

Neither did I. However, should you ever be in Cedar Rapids, IA, please be advised that they can. The justification was the officer's discretion that I "seemed intoxicated." And I wasn't drinking. I did not react well to the situation, which hardly helped, and they asked if I had any psychological conditions. I told them. This seemed to have no impact at the time. I'm sure they get all sorts of actually drunk people who behave poorly.

At least when I returned for court the judge listened to my story and dismissed the fine for public intoxication. I would have pursued it legally but for my complete lack of desire to engage in such a stressful and ultimately pointless process.

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07 Dec 2009, 7:00 pm

RampionRampage wrote:

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I don't deserve that.

...With a BAC of .15

/Seriously/?

Drunk folks can jack up a car before they drive two feet. Distance has nothing to do with anything.

A good person accepts responsibility for their actions. You could have killed yourself or someone else, or caused all kind of property damage.

The fact that you were willing to do that once -- and then your lack of remorse -- suggests you might do something like that again. Go to jail as many times as it takes to figure out how very, very wrong you are. If you still can't figure it out, kiss your license goodbye. Driving is a privelege, not a right.

Turns out it was .13, but I had just had a beer before we left, and that can spike the BAC levels. When my BAC is at .08 I feel nothing. .13 is slightly more than a buzz for me. My vision is fine, and I drive without a problem. I'm not defending drunk driving, I'm just stating my personal case when it comes to alcohol. I know when I've had too much, and I won't drive at that point. But after this experience I'll have someone who isn't drinking do the driving for me.

Why do you say I have no remorse? Trust me, I do, and the last thing I want to do is go back to jail. Just 10 hours in there was a nightmare. I couldn't sleep, I didn't eat, and it was cold and loud, and that was just the holding cell. I got bailed out before I could go to county jail. I wouldn't have survived in there. It is not an ideal environment for someone with AS.

The lesson is learned. I didn't drive intoxicated to be reckless. It wasn't in my intention to go out and do something bad. It was just stupidity, and I paid the price.

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07 Dec 2009, 7:37 pm

way to rationalize your BAC dude.

You break the law, you go to jail or worse. Accept it, move on and don't do it again.

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07 Dec 2009, 7:39 pm

digger1 wrote:

way to rationalize your BAC dude.

You break the law, you go to jail or worse. Accept it, move on and don't do it again.

That's all I can rationalize, because I know myself and what I can handle. Making the decision to drive while intoxicated I cannot and will not make excuses for.

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08 Dec 2009, 12:55 am

Are we of all people going to judge based on typical behavior and numbers without additional data?

Emotional driving, tired driving, and distracted driving have all proven as dangerous as drunk driving. And .13 is not very high anyway.

I don't drive when drinking (don't even have a car). But I'm not going to assume every person with a relatively low BAC is incompetent to drive. However, we must all work within the system. They don't offer special licenses to authorize your highest competent level of drunk driving.

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08 Dec 2009, 1:59 am

chaotik_lord wrote:

You must be listening to Doug Stanhope.

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08 Dec 2009, 7:21 am

chaotik_lord wrote:

The concept is kind of simple. AS has nothing to do with it and shouldn't prevent following out the concept.

You drank?

Don't drive!

:roll:

And if 'knowing yourself' prevents him from seeing hte point of not driving after drinking, hopefully jail did.

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08 Dec 2009, 7:22 am

I know I can drink four long island iced teas and still walk and talk like I've got a minor buzz. Ain't gonna try to make any big decisions, though.

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08 Dec 2009, 10:28 am

I think the point the people here are trying to make is: don't drink and drive. Yes, jail is a terrible place to end up in, but hopefully you learned something from this, so that you won't go back there in the future. If you are still feeling down about this, I'd suggest seeing a therapist, it always helps me out when I feel down. They're not there to judge, only to offer solutions. Best of luck to you in the future. And remember: you're not a bad person, you just made a really poor decision.

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10 Dec 2009, 6:06 am

.08 is the limit in Canada.

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10 Dec 2009, 10:04 am

Tory_canuck wrote:

.08 is the limit in Canada.

Same in the US.

Anyway.. I know .15 is pretty low, but I also know that I start sucking at video games before I really start to feel any effects from alcohol. It can mess with your judgment in subtle ways you can't feel. D: That's why they made the limit what it is.

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10 Dec 2009, 6:03 pm

.15 is definitely not an "only"! I hope you learned your lesson! In Virginia, your 3rd DUI is a felony and carries a mandatory prison sentence of 5 years IIRC.

I was in jail once for three days for speeding (it was in a rural county where driving over 80 mph = jail time, ack!) it was actually not bad at all. There were interesting people there, everyone was nice to me, etc. It was just cold and boring.

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10 Dec 2009, 6:13 pm

idiocratik wrote:

digger1 wrote:

way to rationalize your BAC dude.

You break the law, you go to jail or worse. Accept it, move on and don't do it again.

That's all I can rationalize, because I know myself and what I can handle. Making the decision to drive while intoxicated I cannot and will not make excuses for.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _89926950/

"That night, I decided to drive my wife home after a night of drinking and dancing. "I'm not drunk" ... or so I thought. But in reality, I was drunk and drove home in that condition. Sadly, that night was the last time lever saw my wife alive."

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11 Dec 2009, 4:10 am

Criminal Code of Canada

FROM THE CRIMINAL CODE OF CANADA

Even with a first time offence, in Canada, on top of the sentence, you get a criminal record for life......

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Operation while impaired

253. (1) Every one commits an offence who operates a motor vehicle or vessel or operates or assists in the operation of an aircraft or of railway equipment or has the care or control of a motor vehicle, vessel, aircraft or railway equipment, whether it is in motion or not,

(a) while the person’s ability to operate the vehicle, vessel, aircraft or railway equipment is impaired by alcohol or a drug; or

(b) having consumed alcohol in such a quantity that the concentration in the person’s blood exceeds eighty milligrams of alcohol in one hundred millilitres of blood.

For greater certainty

(2) For greater certainty, the reference to impairment by alcohol or a drug in paragraph (1)(a) includes impairment by a combination of alcohol and a drug.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 253; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 36, c. 32 (4th Supp.), s. 59; 2008, c. 6, s. 18.

Punishment

255. (1) Every one who commits an offence under section 253 or 254 is guilty of an indictable offence or an offence punishable on summary conviction and is liable,

(a) whether the offence is prosecuted by indictment or punishable on summary conviction, to the following minimum punishment, namely,

(i) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000,

(ii) for a second offence, to imprisonment for not less than 30 days, and

(iii) for each subsequent offence, to imprisonment for not less than 120 days;

(b) where the offence is prosecuted by indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; and

(c) if the offence is punishable on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term of not more than 18 months.

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