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14 Jul 2013, 2:56 pm

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14 Jul 2013, 3:16 pm

I have got to go now guys.
I'm heading for the local park to see if I can get me some meat on the table.
I think I'm going to have duck tonight.



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14 Jul 2013, 3:44 pm

There are just as many households with firearms in Norway as there are in the US (more assault rifles, less flashy show-off handguns like the Desert Eagle). Most murders here are carried out by strangulation or stabbing--and weapons used for crime are almost always stolen. In any case, the homicide rate here is usually among the 10-20 lowest countries in the world.



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14 Jul 2013, 4:03 pm

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There are just as many households with firearms in Norway as there are in the US (more assault rifles, less flashy show-off handguns like the Desert Eagle). Most murders here are carried out by strangulation or stabbing--and weapons used for crime are almost always stolen. In any case, the homicide rate here is usually among the 10-20 lowest countries in the world.

what secrets of sanity can you [PLEASE!] impart on us crazy americans?



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14 Jul 2013, 4:05 pm

Maybe, for 9 months out of the year, it's just too bleeping cold to go outside and mug someone.



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14 Jul 2013, 4:09 pm

^^^
:idea: I wonder if Alaska's per-capita violent crime rate is lower than the mainland's?



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14 Jul 2013, 4:13 pm

I read somewhere that Chicago's violent crime rate drops during the coldest part of winter, but I can't find the article.



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14 Jul 2013, 4:15 pm

Damn!
I was already looking forward to go hunting but there seems to be no need for it anymore.
Grandma outdid herself tonight. She shot the parrot of her downstairs neighbour and that's more than enough to prepare a tasty dish.Yummie!

Let's all praise the existence of handguns. Amen.



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14 Jul 2013, 5:17 pm

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Damn! I was already looking forward to go hunting but there seems to be no need for it anymore. Grandma outdid herself tonight. She shot the parrot of her downstairs neighbour and that's more than enough to prepare a tasty dish.Yummie! Let's all praise the existence of handguns. Amen.

my late father told me that when he was a commercial cook for a fisherman's outfit in seattle several decades back, one of his dorm mates was drunk one night and was bothered by a mosquito that wouldn't leave him alone [couldn't get enough of his alky blood] so he took out his .357 magnum and tried to shoot it. he missed.



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14 Jul 2013, 7:21 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
There are just as many households with firearms in Norway as there are in the US (more assault rifles, less flashy show-off handguns like the Desert Eagle). Most murders here are carried out by strangulation or stabbing--and weapons used for crime are almost always stolen. In any case, the homicide rate here is usually among the 10-20 lowest countries in the world.

what secrets of sanity can you [PLEASE!] impart on us crazy americans?


I guess it's a cultural thing. If someone wants to kill you, they'll always find a solution. After all, most people are killed by someone very close, and not by a random stranger that wants to shoot someone just because--and if they don't associate guns with shooting people, they might very well kill the person they wish to see dead with a kitchen knife. The cultural norm here is that guns are for target practice and hunting (hence the lack of handguns), not for protecting the home or anything like that.

In cases where a murder was carried out with a firearm here (the most infamous being Anders Breivik), it's not uncommon for the person to be heavily influenced by neocons.



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14 Jul 2013, 7:56 pm

Kurgan wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
There are just as many households with firearms in Norway as there are in the US (more assault rifles, less flashy show-off handguns like the Desert Eagle). Most murders here are carried out by strangulation or stabbing--and weapons used for crime are almost always stolen. In any case, the homicide rate here is usually among the 10-20 lowest countries in the world.

what secrets of sanity can you [PLEASE!] impart on us crazy americans?


I guess it's a cultural thing. If someone wants to kill you, they'll always find a solution. After all, most people are killed by someone very close, and not by a random stranger that wants to shoot someone just because--and if they don't associate guns with shooting people, they might very well kill the person they wish to see dead with a kitchen knife. The cultural norm here is that guns are for target practice and hunting (hence the lack of handguns), not for protecting the home or anything like that.

In cases where a murder was carried out with a firearm here (the most infamous being Anders Breivik), it's not uncommon for the person to be heavily influenced by neocons.
How's the mental health system? Lots of the mass shootings here in the US are by people who are mentallly unstable. The mental health system sux here unless you can afford to pay a $100+ to see a psych for half an hour cuz most insurances won't cover mental & the comuncity health centers are so underfunded & overbooked they won't help you unless you attmepted suicide or have already harmed others or comiited crimes due to your issues


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14 Jul 2013, 8:07 pm

nick007 wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
There are just as many households with firearms in Norway as there are in the US (more assault rifles, less flashy show-off handguns like the Desert Eagle). Most murders here are carried out by strangulation or stabbing--and weapons used for crime are almost always stolen. In any case, the homicide rate here is usually among the 10-20 lowest countries in the world.

what secrets of sanity can you [PLEASE!] impart on us crazy americans?


I guess it's a cultural thing. If someone wants to kill you, they'll always find a solution. After all, most people are killed by someone very close, and not by a random stranger that wants to shoot someone just because--and if they don't associate guns with shooting people, they might very well kill the person they wish to see dead with a kitchen knife. The cultural norm here is that guns are for target practice and hunting (hence the lack of handguns), not for protecting the home or anything like that.

In cases where a murder was carried out with a firearm here (the most infamous being Anders Breivik), it's not uncommon for the person to be heavily influenced by neocons.
How's the mental health system? Lots of the mass shootings here in the US are by people who are mentallly unstable. The mental health system sux here unless you can afford to pay a $100+ to see a psych for half an hour cuz most insurances won't cover mental & the comuncity health centers are so underfunded & overbooked they won't help you unless you attmepted suicide or have already harmed others or comiited crimes due to your issues


It's not uncommon for people here to spend two years in line waiting for psychiatric treatment, nor are the first sessions free. The prison systems here are very efficient, though, and many convicts get treatment in prison. The country did have a higher rate of rapes per capita than the US a few years ago, so I don't think Americans are more violent than Europeans.



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15 Jul 2013, 3:39 am

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I do believe that was an "Alfred Hitchcock presents" episode. "the murder weapon might well be right under our noses."


Didn't the wife actually serve the lamb to the detectives investigating the crime or something? I never actually watched that show, but my mother used to talk about it and I vaguely remember this one.

I seem to recall another similarly premised episode involving someone being stabbed to death with an icicle, which then of course melted. I suppose they didn't have CSI back in Hitchcock's day, as a missing murder weapon isn't that much of a burden to prosecution anymore.


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15 Jul 2013, 3:42 am

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Personally, I prefer Polonium-210, but it's become so hard to obtain these days ...

:wink: Note to NSA: I'm only joking!


You know, that would actually be kind of clever for a civilian to do, as it would be immediately assumed that a nation-state was behind the murder, most likely the Russians in fact...

Kind of expensive though, better to just make it look like an accident in the first place.


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15 Jul 2013, 3:45 am

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an air-powered shotgun would be interesting. :idea:


Gamo marketed one a few years back, claimed it was suitable for hunting squirrels; most people I know who hunt small game were extremely skeptical.

Maybe you could get enough velocity out of a pre-charged system running 3000 psi HPA, but I doubt you'd be able to make an effective manually cocked pneumatic shotgun.


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15 Jul 2013, 3:47 pm

Dox47 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^
I do believe that was an "Alfred Hitchcock presents" episode. "the murder weapon might well be right under our noses."


Didn't the wife actually serve the lamb to the detectives investigating the crime or something? I never actually watched that show, but my mother used to talk about it and I vaguely remember this one.

your "vaguely" remembered recollection is very accurate. that was the funny part of the episode.[/quote]