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23 Jul 2015, 2:58 pm

Btw if you live in UK I don't think it's a good idea to take their balls and pop them lol


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23 Jul 2015, 3:05 pm

Goldfish feels the need to tell everyone 'hey I volunteer for gay homeless kids; that means I'm the nicest person on the planet. Everyone else can f-off. I really only volunteer to look good'


Is this true or is this damn true!


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23 Jul 2015, 3:17 pm

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I'm sure you wouldn't mind constant noise while your trying to get on with your life...


80 some-odd brand new townhomes have been under construction 40 feet behind our house for months on end now. Construction noise begins before 7am. But I understand fully that noise happens & people need to do their jobs or have their fun, so, I wear earplugs to bed and get an OK night's sleep - I certainly don't phone the police because someone else is doing their thing completely within the law.


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23 Jul 2015, 3:21 pm

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Goldfish feels the need to tell everyone 'hey I volunteer for gay homeless kids; that means I'm the nicest person on the planet. Everyone else can f-off. I really only volunteer to look good'


Is this true or is this damn true!


Completely false, actually.

What's wrong with you? :? Seriously. It's words like yours my friend refers to as "push down, pop up" - trying to belittle someone else in order to make yourself feel better somehow. It's really quite sad.

I never said I'm the nicest person on the planet nor that everyone else can f-off. You said those things. I've volunteered to do this to give gay homeless kids a fighting chance at life & for no other ulterior motives.

This project has been 100% entirely my initiative and I'm not going to feel bad about it one iota because you think it's about shameless self promotion. You couldn't be further from the truth.


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23 Jul 2015, 3:25 pm

@goldfish bang and you are dead


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23 Jul 2015, 3:34 pm

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@goldfish bang and you are dead


Is that intended to be a threat? :?

I matter of factly state that I'm not a selfish person & have undertaken a massive charity fundraiser project, almost singlehandedly, and in return for that you post death threats?

Seek help. You need it.


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23 Jul 2015, 3:38 pm

The dead can't say anything.


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23 Jul 2015, 3:47 pm

It's not a threat. I actually shot you over the Internet lol


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24 Jul 2015, 3:43 am

This thread has become a shooting contest between goldfish21 and starfox. Starfox went too far and it it is viewed as an unprovoked personal attack. It's also getting way off topic.

The thread will be locked if there are any more posts like this.

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24 Jul 2015, 7:14 am

goldfish, I understand that with utilitarianism one person can be sacrificed for the sake of the majority, but in reality no one does that quite literally. People have the right to complaint, at the very least. And, if a larger group (yet still a minority) is affected then they can protest.

Football is better than video games? I consider that the most outrageous thing you've said so far... if you help gay people, who have usually been prejudiced against in their lives, you must understand that prejudice against *anything* is illogical. Video games (RPGs) have shown me that they can be masterpieces of art, and if you haven't tried one I suggest you do so before you feel free to discriminate against anything.

Ultimately, you know nothing about my life and if you can't see my point of view whatsoever then perhaps don't feel so certain. I can argue with you on logical grounds, but not if you're steadfast in your prejudice.



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24 Jul 2015, 7:35 am

I feel sympathetic towards Mootoo. Regardless of the legality of the activities happening just outside his home, not being able to relax at home is horrible. It's easier for those people to find another place where they can play football than for Mootoo to find another house/flat. That's pretty obvious. I think some people tend to underestimate and be dismissive of other people's suffering.



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26 Jul 2015, 7:36 am

Mootoo wrote:
goldfish, I understand that with utilitarianism one person can be sacrificed for the sake of the majority, but in reality no one does that quite literally. People have the right to complaint, at the very least. And, if a larger group (yet still a minority) is affected then they can protest.

Football is better than video games? I consider that the most outrageous thing you've said so far... if you help gay people, who have usually been prejudiced against in their lives, you must understand that prejudice against *anything* is illogical. Video games (RPGs) have shown me that they can be masterpieces of art, and if you haven't tried one I suggest you do so before you feel free to discriminate against anything.

Ultimately, you know nothing about my life and if you can't see my point of view whatsoever then perhaps don't feel so certain. I can argue with you on logical grounds, but not if you're steadfast in your prejudice.


Sure, people can complain and protest about things. I just don't think you have something valid to complain about unless it's causing excessive noise during times noise bylaws are in effect. Here, that's 11pm-7am. If people have loud music on after 11pm, cops ge called to shut down parties. But between 7am-11pm, almost anything goes.

Yes, football is better than video games by the criteria I use to define "better." YMMV, but to me football is better because it's an active activity that's infinitely healthier for people than the sedentary act of playing video games. FYI, I don't play football or video games but I'd rather hear the noise of kids kicking a ball around than know that they're sitting inside playing video games. I don't find sounds like that annoying. I appreciate the fact that people are having fun and keeping fit and thus can very easily accept that it might create a little noise.

Prejudice? I care equally as little about playing football or video games, so I don't really have a bias besides being pro fitness/health/exercise. Have you never considered the importance of that in peoples' lives? I, too, can be logical.. we're just simply miles apart on our opinions. It seems you're far too hung up on irrational fears of a soccer ball breaking through your window and damaging your landlord's blinds & are overreacting to an improbable hypothetical situation.


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26 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

You know what I think it is? I think the police in general don't think it's wrong because the kids are just playing football and are getting exercise and having fun when they could be out committing vandalism or doing drugs. They think anyone who complains about the noise or confiscates the sports equipment is the real jerk. I've actually seen it in a couple of police videos.



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14 Aug 2015, 2:22 am

The point is that they don't need to do it one meter in front of my bedroom! Selfishness isn't being logical. There's some local parent who'd defend his kids' right to death to exclusively play in front of my bedroom... when he's five houses away, safely protected behind the large pots they use as goalposts. I'm sure you think that's perfectly fine, though. And, you may think it's healthier, but video games are even more psychologically FYI... I'm assuming you won't blame a chess player similarly, since it's so much more established, but it's all the same... and football is the last thing to be the only way to exercise. I personally have a crosstrainer I can hop on at any time just a metre away from my bed... I DON'T NEED TO KICK BALLS AGAINST SOME OTHER PERSON'S FLAT, GODDAMMIT.

Oh, and, thank f**k for rain... been raining constantly for the last few days, not a ball in sight. Yay. -_-



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16 Aug 2015, 2:26 pm

Situation is getting worse... been kicking them against the walls repeatedly today, police won't help now... apparently I need to wait until a window is broken now, so I guess if they're planning to do this regularly it's only a matter of time and then finally something is done... society is so ret*d, I swear.



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17 Aug 2015, 3:30 am

Have you considered the possibility that they're only doing it to get a reaction out of you because they think it's funny and if you chose to ignore them instead they might just stop and go play somewhere else?

Seriously. Chances are pretty good that they think it's LOLZ to get a rise out of you, so they do it. But if they didn't get a reaction, didn't get you calling the cops (or yelling at them?? if you do) or w/e, then it wouldn't be very fun for them for very long to try to piss you off and get nothing in return for it and so eventually they'd just stop and move on to something else to amuse themselves with.


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