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13 Aug 2015, 12:03 pm

Katira wrote:
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Why all the interest in invading Australia? we are just a far flung outpost of the UK (yes we kept the Union Jack and God save the Queen in our constitution)

Anyway there's no need to invade us as we are virtually American clones anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntYrAQVQZKs
Well, it looks like you don´t need to worry about an invasion any time soon, apparantly it´s only one person interested: me :lol:

What interest me most is the Australian nature. You have so many amazing animals over there, and all that space!
It´s unique :)
I would love to visit, and who knows, perhaps I will some day.

As far as visiting Australia goes, I went there in 1981 and loved it! Great people. I have heard that God created Australia so that he had a place to put the weird stuff ( plants and animals ). I believe it.


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13 Aug 2015, 12:43 pm

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I have heard that God created Australia so that he had a place to put the weird stuff ( plants and animals ). I believe it.


Nope...no "god" here...
"Gods" plural, and plenty of them...
See below:
"List of Australian Aboriginal mythological figures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A ... al_figures



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13 Aug 2015, 1:18 pm

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there is so much publicity about australia's deadly animals, but they never attack people or they are rare to the point of insignificance.

They exist and can get into your house. I prefer my own country's wildlife. No big carnivores or venomous snakes/spiders/scorpions. Just better peace of mind knowing that. Whenever I see a spider in my house I can just let it out and know that touching it won't kill me and it probably won't even bite. But in Australia you'd have to know by look if it's able to kill you or not. And if we're going to be invading the outback then I'm sure they've got their own ecosystem of deadly nopes.


lol...
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I heard Barack Obama say that 35,000 Americans are killed by shootings each year...
I think the most deadly animal on earth is the human kind... ;)

We have the second most dangerous snake in the world (the brown snake) but it is very rare for someone to die from snake or spider bites because of the antivenin available...
BTW, we don't have scorpions in the built up areas...
Heck, I didn't know there were any scorpions at all until I Googled just now!

It is a matter of perspective...
But why am I trying to encourage you lot to crowd my space in the bestest <sic> country in the world? :mrgreen:

Something people seem to forget is that there are only around 24 million aussies...
And the proportion of tax payers to those on welfare/pensions is getting worse year by year...
Australia may have a lot of potential, but where is the money going to come from to develop that potential?
China?


You are right...does make it seem more dangerous to live here. There are plenty of snakes in my state but most of them are non venomous so it doesn't really matter unless someone is really freaked out by them, I just think the are cool and have caught them before, and if you're not rough with them they don't usually try to bite, or anything. I always let them go though. There are rattle snakes but they rattle their tail so you can stop approaching it before it bites you because that is menacing snake for 'go away', though I personally have never seen one and they tend to avoid more populated areas.


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13 Aug 2015, 6:31 pm

I've heard great things about Australia

But I've also heard you have lots of flies.



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13 Aug 2015, 7:07 pm

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What´s happening in Australia?

Suddently interesting, more or less "wacky" people I happen to stumble across so often turn out to be Australian I start to think it can´t be a coincidence.
Like the stand up comedian Steve Hughes, and also Jim Jefferies (depending on my mood for the day, some days he´s a bit too much).
An Egyptian anchorite, Fr. Lazarus St. Anthony.
The "researcher, truth seeker, radio host, film-maker and one of the leaders of global awakening movement" Max Igan (definitely don´t agree with everything he says, but he has some very good points).
And the latest (thanks to traven in "what are you listening to THIS VERY SECOND?", I think),C W Stoneking.

Is Australia the AS land of freedom and opportunity, the promised land of oddballs?


Who is "we?"


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13 Aug 2015, 9:14 pm

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there is so much publicity about australia's deadly animals, but they never attack people or they are rare to the point of insignificance.
there are not many people people in australia who are injured by deadly animals.
australia could probably support 50 million people as it is, but it would be a crowded way of life and i would hate it.

Well. A few days after the famous Steve(wildlife programs) died, I met an australian. We spoke about dangerous animals in Australia and he said, the rumours are wildly exaggerated. I asked him about spiders and he answered: "Yeah. They are a real "pain". They are everywhere, - even in cities.
That made my mind up. I love to visit Australia - through TV.


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13 Aug 2015, 9:17 pm

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I've heard great things about Australia

But I've also heard you have lots of flies.




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13 Aug 2015, 10:46 pm

No, I don't think it's good place for autistic people. Many people here value being popular. Awkward people are excluded and marginalized in subtle/implicit ways. They don't do it explicitly because they don't want to look like bad people.

Some people said New Zealand people are more accepting/understanding in general. And I hear that some Europeans are like that, too.



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13 Aug 2015, 10:55 pm

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Thats why I live in Canada. :)
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So do I, cheers.

I am not happy with the government at this point, we used to be America's friendly neighbor but now we are almost as bad as America.


I've noticed that lately, one of the main news sources I follow has posted quite a lot of articles that paint a pretty clear picture of that.


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13 Aug 2015, 11:03 pm

Jensen wrote:
b9 wrote:
there is so much publicity about australia's deadly animals, but they never attack people or they are rare to the point of insignificance.
there are not many people people in australia who are injured by deadly animals.
australia could probably support 50 million people as it is, but it would be a crowded way of life and i would hate it.

Well. A few days after the famous Steve(wildlife programs) died, I met an australian. We spoke about dangerous animals in Australia and he said, the rumours are wildly exaggerated. I asked him about spiders and he answered: "Yeah. They are a real "pain". They are everywhere, - even in cities.
That made my mind up. I love to visit Australia - through TV.



There are spiders everywhere, everywhere though....as they say chances are typically you are no more than 5 feet from a spider apparently.


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13 Aug 2015, 11:45 pm

[quote="kraftiekortie"]I've heard great things about Australia

But I've also heard you have lots of flies.[/quote

Where I live (Victoria) we only get flies in the summer, In the outback they would be worse.

Yes theres lots of spiders I've found a redback spider now and again in my garage I keep my distance from them.
Don't let the stingers put you off coming over if you want to come over for a holiday(Vacation).



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14 Aug 2015, 1:15 am

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No, I don't think it's good place for autistic people. Many people here value being popular. Awkward people are excluded and marginalized in subtle/implicit ways. They don't do it explicitly because they don't want to look like bad people.

Some people said New Zealand people are more accepting/understanding in general. And I hear that some Europeans are like that, too.


I agree...
The Scandinavian countries are famous for supporting people who have social difficulties...
The English are worse than the Australians, however, imo...
Regardless, the only country I want to live in is Australia...



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14 Aug 2015, 1:20 am

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There are spiders everywhere, everywhere though....as they say chances are typically you are no more than 5 feet from a spider apparently.


Only real men need apply to immigrate into Australia... :mrgreen:

P.S...
I like spiders...
The most handsome being the huntsman...

P.P.S...
And it is a sport to move them outside without harming them...
Only the non-poisonous ones tho...



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14 Aug 2015, 1:54 am

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Anyway there's no need to invade us as we are virtually American clones anyway.


Not fully.

We have a homogeneous society in comparison; we don't have the large ghettos with very high crime rates like in the US. Even our "crime ridden" aboriginal communities only have around 5 murders per 100,000; it's under 1 for Europeans here. In the US, their black population has a massive 17 per (that's very high).

We might get talked into the US' wars, but we aren't the only ones there.

Whilst Oz is sorta conservative overall, it's different to the US' version of such. We're closer to the UK there.


No I mean't the way we think...dude :wink:



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14 Aug 2015, 1:56 am

Katira wrote:
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Why all the interest in invading Australia? we are just a far flung outpost of the UK (yes we kept the Union Jack and God save the Queen in our constitution)

Anyway there's no need to invade us as we are virtually American clones anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntYrAQVQZKs
Well, it looks like you don´t need to worry about an invasion any time soon, apparantly it´s only one person interested: me :lol:

What interest me most is the Australian nature. You have so many amazing animals over there, and all that space!
It´s unique :)
I would love to visit, and who knows, perhaps I will some day.


Yes the range of wildlife here is quite complex. Australia has one of the largest percentage of endemic animals in the world because we have been isolated (an island) for millions of years. Critters like Platypus and Echidnas have their own phylum as there is nothing remotely similar anywhere else.



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14 Aug 2015, 2:02 am

Pepe wrote:
jk1 wrote:
No, I don't think it's good place for autistic people. Many people here value being popular. Awkward people are excluded and marginalized in subtle/implicit ways. They don't do it explicitly because they don't want to look like bad people.

Some people said New Zealand people are more accepting/understanding in general. And I hear that some Europeans are like that, too.


I agree...
The Scandinavian countries are famous for supporting people who have social difficulties...
The English are worse than the Australians, however, imo...
Regardless, the only country I want to live in is Australia...


Yes I second this, Scandinavians (especially the Danes) are very good at socially integrating people with disabilities. Even the Vikings elevated Ivar the boneless to become their greatest leader and he was born without legs. Australians (despite our fabulous standard of living) can learn something in this regard.