RainbowUnion wrote:
Chronos wrote:
No. The scent of cigarette smoke makes me ill and given the nature of it, health effects and cost, I don't understand why people even start.
There are always smokers who proclaim they are completely considerate of others when they smoke...my aunt would even go so far to ask people for permission to smoke in hervown house when she had comoany, which was commendable, but often, their measures are not enough, and enough smokers are inconsiderate or unaware the impact of their habit on others such that it is problematic.
At my university, smoking was banned except in pre designated smoking areas, and in these areas, and in outdoor areas where smoking was not permitted and signs were posted indicating thus, the ground was littered with cigarette butts.
I've only known one person who succumbed to the effects of smoking and tobacco products who didn't regret their habit. Most people who develop related cancers, emphysema, COPD, hear problems and vascular problems as a result of tobacco products are pretty uncomfortable in the later stages of their disease.
If I were evil, I would invest in tobacco products.
I live alone, I don't smoke at work or indoor public places, and pipe smoking rarely contributes to any of what you listed other than mouth cancer. You don't inhale the smoke. As for mouth cancer, yeah, I know my risk is higher than a non smoker.
My cat had mouth cancer. Obviously he wasn't a tobacco user. It may have been from a combination of a poor immune system, a papilloma virus, gum inflammation and a canned food diet with tuna containing catfoods. It ate away his mouth from the inside and I didn't realize the extent of it (because cats aren't very keen on having their mouths pryed open) until he started breathing heavily and his nose started bleeding.
It had eaten through the roof of his mouth in to his nose and had spread up in to his facial bones and behind his eye. The primary treatment for oral squamous cell carcinomas is excising the affected area and radiation, but to excise them properly, wide margens must be removed and cats don't have large enough of a face for that unless the cancer is caught very early or it's in the lower jaw.
In humans they can excise but sometimes the wound left is too big to heal and the person succumbs to complications from that.
The unfortunate thing is, the rest of my cat's body was fine. It was not like with my dog where it was metastatic cancer.
It was a wound that worsened and grew rather than healed and he could no longer eat and his pain could no longer be managed. At some point I imagine it would have breached his brain cavity and he would have succumbed to infection but it never got to that point.
I'm just going to be very straight foward here. It's a dumb cancer to have to die of because it is often preventable and often kills by local invasion of the face and skull and throat, and your love of your pipe will likely seem a silly and insignificant thing if you get it. Even if you survive you may be left without the sense of taste or smell and the ability to enjoy your pipe so why not just get rid of the tobacco now and increase your odds of maintaining a normal life?
If you eat a Western diet, odds are you will die of a heart attack more than any other cause. I'm not going to quit KFC either. Like I posted, I know people who lived like monks health wise and still got cancer and heart problems. You don't get out of this world alive any way you slice it. As for my smoking, it helps me concentrate. Bottom line.
10 Mar 2018, 11:03 am
Currently: yes I smoke, but will probably attempt to quit again, soon. Maybe I need to look at more pictures of diseased lungs or perhaps get nicotine patches.
