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17 Jul 2019, 5:15 pm

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That’s 5 years after the Moon shot...


"The Knight newspaper company in July 1970 found that a whopping 30 percent of Americans believed the Moon landing had been faked."



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17 Jul 2019, 5:17 pm

Like I said, if the Russians and Chinese made some serious charges pertaining to the United States faking the Moon landing----then I might entertain the possibility.

If you really think about it, it's a ridiculous notion. I am sure there were people back then investigating NASA. I am sure at least some of those people were skeptical about the space program. Nothing was found that would indicate a "hoax."

Many journalists were actually against the administration of Richard Nixon---and would have loved for there to have been a proven "faked" Moon landing.



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17 Jul 2019, 5:40 pm

It is probably not easy to find what all the Russia and China said 50 years ago.
Or to know who was investigating NASA back then or what they found.
But it has been doubted by many from the beginning and quite a lot of evidence has been presented to show it was a hoax, so it is not airtight. Not even an unmanned rover has visited any of the landing sites in all this time.



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17 Jul 2019, 5:47 pm

All right. Believe what you want to believe.

But....I find it would have been much harder to fake the Moon landing----than it was to actually land the Lunar Module on the Moon.

The reason we haven't been to the Moon since----is money. And the emphasis on keeping men living in space stations orbiting the Earth for years.

Journalists are snoopy, nosy people at heart; if there was a hoax---trust me, they would have found it, and reported on it.

Pravda was the main Russian paper in the Soviet years. Look up Pravda from the 1960s-1970s. It was a propaganda organ---but it was openly published.



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17 Jul 2019, 5:56 pm

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17 Jul 2019, 6:00 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
All right. Believe what you want to believe.

But....I find it would have been much harder to fake the Moon landing----than it was to actually land the Lunar Module on the Moon.

The reason we haven't been to the Moon since----is money. And the emphasis on keeping men living in space stations orbiting the Earth for years.

Journalists are snoopy, nosy people at heart; if there was a hoax---trust me, they would have found it, and reported on it.

Pravda was the main Russian paper in the Soviet years. Look up Pravda from the 1960s-1970s. It was a propaganda organ---but it was openly published.


I do not necessarily believe it. But I think there is room for at least a tad of skepticism and a good enough platform to play devil's advocate.



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18 Jul 2019, 2:44 pm

Smithsonian Magazine story, 'Yes, the United States Certainly DID Land Humans on the Moon.' (Moderate Length Read):

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithson ... 180972161/



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18 Jul 2019, 3:46 pm

JUST FOUND!

Y'all ever heard of Statement Analysis?? Just a special interest of mine a year or two ago. Peter Hyatt is the OG statement analyzer. I love listening to him expose deception.

Here he is breaking down a Neil Armstrong interview:



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18 Jul 2019, 5:45 pm

What does all that prove?

You have the right to believe nobody landed on the Moon.....just like I have to right to believe Neil Armstrong and people up to Apollo 17 (except for Apollo 13) landed on the Moon.

I can't stop you. It's your prerogative.

I just feel there's no way a hoax could have been perpetrated. It's just not possible.



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18 Jul 2019, 7:23 pm

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19 Jul 2019, 1:35 am

The german band Rammstein did really go to the moon :wink: . They did even give a concert :wink:

It's wunderbar



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19 Jul 2019, 5:09 am

EzraS wrote:
It is probably not easy to find what all the Russia and China said 50 years ago.
Or to know who was investigating NASA back then or what they found.
But it has been doubted by many from the beginning and quite a lot of evidence has been presented to show it was a hoax, so it is not airtight. Not even an unmanned rover has visited any of the landing sites in all this time.


Russia spoke with one voice back then, as did China, because they were both monolithic totalitarian dictatorships. Neither country had large numbers of independent media outlets doing their own opinion-editorial things (the way that the US, then ,and now, has). So "keeping track" of "all what was said in China or Russia" isn't hard to do. There isn't much to keep track of. Both regimes would simply trot out their respective "party lines". Russia claimed that "we weren't really racing you guys", which is what we would have said had they beaten us to the moon. But Russia never claimed that our landing was a hoax.

But I think that you are right that lunatic fringers were questioning it from the get-go.

I remember watching the moon landing with my cousins when I was a teen. And remember the grown ups in the room(aunt, uncle, parents) all ribbing each other about how "the whole thing was filmed in a backlot of a Hollywood studio. Harhardiharhar". They were all joking of course. But I am sure that there were sanity impaired folks who were thinking the same thought at that moment, but not laughing.

Folks who believe that the moon landing was a hoax also tend to believe in the reality of "the Philadelphia Experiment": the U.S. Navy destroyer ship that was supposedly made to jump back and forth in time during while docked in Philadelphia during WWII.

So..we are both LESS advanced than the powers at be claim we are (we couldn't really go to the Moon), and are MORE advanced than they claim (we were able to make 2000 ton ship travel in time way back in 1942). they are concealing contradictory things from us! We can do more than they claim we can. But cant do as much stuff as they claim we can!! !! ! :lol:



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19 Jul 2019, 5:12 am

Erewhon wrote:
The german band Rammstein did really go to the moon :wink: . They did even give a concert :wink:

It's wunderbar



They showed both of America's greatest achievements!

The Moon landing.

And Lucky Strike cigarettes! :lol:



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19 Jul 2019, 5:17 am

WE (Americans) may not have reached the Moon.

But back in the Forties Nazi Germany DID set up a base on the far side of the Moon.

At least that's the premise of this movie from Finland.



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19 Jul 2019, 6:52 am

It's pretty clear that people *have* been to the moon, because there are actual reviews on Yahoo, and they don't let people post fake reviews there.

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19 Jul 2019, 7:48 am

I was one of those 12 people on Yahoo who did travel to the moon. I can proof it with a video, its up to everybody to believe it or not believe it. Exactly 3 years ago, in the year 207 after-Darwin i set my feet on the moon. Taxpayers dont have to be afraid, i didnt use a extreme amount of money to achieve my goal.