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30 Oct 2019, 4:29 pm

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... Last year there was a massive revolve by the "common man" in France. It was called the Yellow Vest movement. It was caused by an increase in fuel taxes, the result of climate change policies. Currently there is a massive revolt underway in Chili. This was caused by fare hikes for public transport, the result of climate change policies. If the a great portion of the population in California is deprived of electricity through long lasting blackouts, will it result in a revolt by "the common man"?
Just as soon as we finish our cocktails and get out of our hot-tubs.



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30 Oct 2019, 5:04 pm

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Newsom [Governor of California] declared a statewide emergency Sunday as multiple wildfires forced the evacuation of nearly 200,000 people from their homes. Mandatory evacuations were ordered Wednesday morning in Southern California when a rapidly moving wildfire ignited in Simi Valley, near the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

The biggest evacuation took place in Northern California's Sonoma County, where 180,000 people were told to pack up and leave. Meanwhile, PG&E shut off power to 2.3 million people across 36 counties starting Saturday evening.

"Just look at PG&E, which is getting all the blame for the fires and the blackouts. They're not allowed to clear dead trees near their power lines ... The 'greens' insist on minimal forest management. PG&E is forced to spend billions buying expensive wind and solar power ... an extra $2.2 billion each and every year -- money that cannot be spent on fireproofing," Varney said.

The state Supreme Court has ruled that PG&E will be held liable for damage caused by their equipment, even if they were not negligent. And by law, PG&E must provide power in all areas -- even those designated as having a very high fire risk.

Source: Varney blames California's 'far-left climate change politics' as wildfires rage

Last year there was a massive revolt by the "common man" in France which continues even today. It was called the Yellow Vest movement. It was caused by an increase in fuel taxes, the result of climate change policies. Currently there is a massive revolt underway in Chile. This was caused by fare hikes for public transport, the result of climate change policies. If the a great portion of the population in California is deprived of electricity through long lasting blackouts, will it result in a revolt by "the common man"?


Later on , the goal is to drive people from more remote areas by their own will
Through extreme circumstances and relate it to nature . This way gov. That is may exude easier control over s more compact populace. To police . Saving money and manpower and resources . Declare previous inhabited areas as park land. Create sole,y large superhighways for transit of good and material
Connected via international airports . Not for use by common public .Your area will be the only resources immediately available. Thereby preventing transmission of various viruses or illness. Rampant disease outbreaks .
Am thinking , am watching too many conspirascy theorists on utube.


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30 Oct 2019, 7:27 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/29/pge-pow ... ekend.html

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PG&E says its power lines may have started 2 fires in California over the weekend

Pacific Gas & Electric Co. power lines may have started two wildfires over the weekend in the San Francisco Bay Area, the utility said Monday, even though widespread blackouts were in place to prevent downed lines from starting fires during dangerously windy weather.

The fires described in PG&E reports to state regulators match blazes that destroyed a tennis club and forced evacuations in Lafayette, about 20 miles (32 kilometers) east of San Francisco.

The fires began in a section of town where PG&E had opted to keep the lights on. The sites were not designated as a high fire risk, the company said.


Seems like the power outage didn't stop fires from starting since it happened in an area which they didn't think was at risk and still had the power on.



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30 Oct 2019, 7:36 pm

The power outages worked, but only in the locations they were used.



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01 Nov 2019, 9:56 pm

This week a homeowner told the Los Angeles Times: “They shut off the power and we still had a fire. I don’t understand it.” That’s because less than 10% of fires are caused by power lines. It’s impossible even to know if the intentional outages are doing more harm than good, though the question at least was broached in a state Senate hearing this year. Utilities make the decision. They are understandably focused on minimizing their own financial liability rather than weighing the trade-offs that outages impose on the public.

Holman Jenkins: California wildfires – Can 40 million suffer from third-world blackouts without voter revolt?

California Gov. Gavin Newsom is urging residents across the state to not threaten or harass workers with Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) as angry customers continue to vent their frustrations about widespread power outages aimed at preventing wildfires.

Some PG&E workers have reported objects being thrown at them and damage to offices and company vehicles. In one case, Newsom said a worker on the way to inspect power lines was run off a road. The utility has described similar incidents in recent weeks where its employees were targeted.

[url=California governor pleads with residents to stop targeting utility workers]https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-governor-targeting-utility-workers[/url]


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01 Nov 2019, 10:16 pm

gotta be a better way. gotta be smart people down there who know a better way. why aren't these people in charge?



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14 Nov 2019, 1:27 pm

Another massive lawsuit portends more blackouts in the future for California.

A Southern California utility has agreed to pay $360 million to settle lawsuits over deadly wildfires sparked by the company's equipment in 2017 and 2018.

The Associated Press reported that Southern California Edison had agreed to repay counties, cities and other public agencies for firefighting costs and repairing damage caused by the Thomas Fire in 2017 and the Woolsey Fire last year.

Utility to pay $360M to settle Southern California wildfire lawsuits


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14 Nov 2019, 1:28 pm

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gotta be a better way. gotta be smart people down there who know a better way. why aren't these people in charge?
The smartest rats are the first to leave a sinking ship.



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14 Nov 2019, 1:30 pm

without compassionate and public-spirited smart rats, where would we be today? we'd have died out long ago, methinks.



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19 Nov 2019, 9:26 am

I read an article today that PG&E was being sued again this time by someone claiming their 500 pound emerald (worth in the neighborhood of $280 million) was damaged in the fire.

A California man reportedly has filed a monetary claim after recent wildfires that he said included a 500-pound emerald that could fetch $280 million, prompting PG&E – the electric utility company – to seek and question the historic gem’s alleged owner.

The claim is related to the 2018 Camp Fire that was the deadliest and most destructive wildfire in the state’s history, Bloomberg reported. The blaze killed 85 people and destroyed 19,000 homes and other structures. The fire caused an estimated $16.5 billion in damage.

The electric and gas utility is looking for evidence that the emerald existed, which could include appraisal reports and receipts. The utility did not include the man’s name in the report.


Source: California man claims fire destroyed 500-pound emerald, report says

So it seems like another example of lawsuits run amok in California.

Do 500 pound Emeralds even exist? The Internet says "The Bahia Emerald is one of the largest emeralds and contains the largest single shard ever found. The stone, weighing approximately 752 lb (341 kg) (approximately 1,700,000 carats) originated from Bahia, Brazil and is emerald crystals embedded in host rock." This emerald was valued at $309 million. So it might be a possibility.

So my first question was if this emerald did exist then why is this man suing instead of the insurance company. Obviously if one has something of great value, they would protect it with loss insurance and the insurance company would be filing the lawsuit instead of this man.

But maybe this individual never insured the item. And then he left it laying around in his house. Also wouldn't a person if he possessed such a valuable emerald place it in an underground fireproof safe protecting it from fire damage?


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19 Nov 2019, 9:33 am

What are you going to do to put a stop to it?



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19 Nov 2019, 1:07 pm

I lived in California for 6 years. You couldn’t pay me to go back.



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19 Nov 2019, 3:37 pm

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What are you going to do to put a stop to it?


Already done it. I left California years ago.


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19 Nov 2019, 3:40 pm

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Fnord wrote:
What are you going to do to put a stop to it?
Already done it. I left California years ago.
No … that only put a stop to the alleged effects lawsuits against PG&E had on you.

What are you going to do to put a stop to it?



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19 Nov 2019, 5:27 pm

for californians, what would be a representative shopping list of things to do, in order to "fight back"?



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08 Feb 2020, 11:06 am

California utilities plan to continue shutting off power to customers during dry and windy conditions to prevent sparking deadly wildfires, but they aim to make outages more targeted to avoid widespread blackouts, according to plans filed Friday with the state.

Plans by the state's three largest investor-owned utilities said wildfire mitigation plans would build on efforts made last year to reduce the risk their equipment would cause deadly infernos.

The thrust of the plans is to expand vegetation trimming that can cause a fire when it strikes electrical equipment and fortify power lines to make them less likely to throw sparks or become vulnerable to fire damage.

The proposed plans filed with the California Public Utilities Commission were required by the state after a series of catastrophic fires blamed on utilities, including two in 2018 that killed more than 85 people and destroyed about 20,000 homes.

Fire conditions last fall led utilities to cut power to millions of customers, creating headaches that extended well beyond areas that were at risk of burning. Pacific Gas & Electric Co. was heavily criticized for not taking a more targeted approach.

Source: California utility wildfire prevention plans call for more blackouts

Prescribed burning is one of the main tools for fire management. Prescribed or hazard reduction burning is a deliberate, monitored fires conducted during off-seasons, aimed at clearing out flammable materials from precarious terrain. One of the main causes of massive wildfires in California is the governmental policies that preclude the controlled burning and removal of tinder dry shrub.

So if the utilities plans at vegetation trimming is implemented without hinderance by various levels of the California government, then perhaps this annual problem will be brought under control and the need to have massive electrical blackouts in the future.

The time to prepare for the next brush-fire season is during the off-season. That time is now!


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