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23 Oct 2023, 2:52 pm

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power windows need a manual overdrive for safety's sake. but power windows themselves are considered a safety feature if for example a bee flies into the car and the driver loses it.


When Volvo was Volvo (Before Ford took them over and later sold them to a Chinese company), Volvo insisted that their cars had to have at least one manual means to open a window. This on the lower spec cars was the rear window openings, and on their higher spec cars was a manually operated sunroof which would completely open up as an emergency means to exit the car if the car electeics short out.

Some of todays designs are positively dangerous. Had a Renault that would automatically lock all doors after about 12mph. This means if one drove into a lake or a flood and the batfery shorted one would be locked into ones car with no means to get out, and most manufacturers now do this.

Ford thought up an idea which unfortunately the criminal elemsnt took advantage of. Their idea was a good one in regards of safety. If one locked the doors andhad a frontal crash, sensors would sense the crash and unlock the doors. Sadly aftef two years of fitting Fords with this feature, criminals realized that if they banged hard on the bonnet, all the doors would unlock and open. Fortunately for crime prevention, this was discontinued on their cars... But is sad that there are criminals. a poor reflection on modern life.



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23 Oct 2023, 3:01 pm

criminals are why we can't have nice things.



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23 Oct 2023, 3:03 pm

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But is sad that there are criminals. a poor reflection on modern life.


Call me crazy, but crime isn't a modern phenomenon. :nerdy:


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23 Oct 2023, 3:06 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
But is sad that there are criminals. a poor reflection on modern life.


Call me crazy, but crime isn't a modern phenomenon. :nerdy:


But a lot of modern crimes were originally acceptable :jester:


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23 Oct 2023, 3:37 pm

Yes, but in the past even criminals were good honest people.



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23 Oct 2023, 3:46 pm

I wouldn't go as far as good, but I believe Butch Cassidy was considered an honest criminal by some.


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23 Oct 2023, 3:49 pm

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Yes, but in the past even criminals were good honest people.


I'm not sure anything has changed in that regard, except for where our sympathies lie.


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23 Oct 2023, 4:48 pm

I said that with my funny sense of humour!



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23 Oct 2023, 5:06 pm

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I wouldn't go as far as good, but I believe Butch Cassidy was considered an honest criminal by some.

as honest as a crook could be. he was also an exceptionally nice person by all accounts, as a criminal or otherwise.



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24 Oct 2023, 11:13 am

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I wouldn't go as far as good, but I believe Butch Cassidy was considered an honest criminal by some.

There was a town out west that harbored him and the people there thought he was awesome.Sorry I can’t recall the name.It was on the Amtrak route to Cali and they told the history of the area.


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24 Oct 2023, 11:14 am

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Yes, but in the past even criminals were good honest people.

“ A lock stops only an honest thief.”


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