Do panhandlers / hobos make you nervous?

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21 Aug 2007, 11:51 am

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the police pick up the drunks here all the time and take them to the hospital. they dry out at the hospital after the city pays $1000 to detox them and then drop them back on the street. then they get picked up again a few days later. the drunks are all on a first name basis with the nurses at the hospital. they don't have a shelter for them so they live either in the forest or behind stores.

a lot of native americans are missing a enzyme or something that breaks down alcohol properly. so it affects them differently than it does non-indians.


That is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard. That's not it, they just drink a lot more because they have nothing better to do. Not being racist or trying to, but they've had it bad kind of like the jews, the africans... Generally, they are treated like the hanging toenails of North American society. That's why they drink so much... and don't call them 'indians' thats racist.


Don't call me racist. I'm Native American myself and we often times still call ourselves Indians. It's not a racist word though technically it is incorrect term as we have no connection to India.

The alcoholism gene is not bull. It is a wellknown medical fact. Their body breaks it down differently than in Caucasians and that is why Native Americans and related aborigines have a more difficult time stopping booze. And by the way I'm not making an excuse for myself because I don't drink alcohol at all nor smoke weed, take drugs or cigarettes. Or for that matter I don't imbibe in coffee. But what I was stating is info that has come from the medical community.



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21 Aug 2007, 11:59 am

They have a hard time because, historically, they got owned and have no culture or identity left. White culture will cover it up with some BS gene theory with their fancy pseudo scientific knowledge.

If I were in the position many of them are in I would be drunk everyday too.



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21 Aug 2007, 12:06 pm

This makes me sad.



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21 Aug 2007, 2:09 pm

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This makes me sad.


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21 Aug 2007, 2:19 pm

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This makes me sad.


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Aradford is just being a butt. He is a worthless troll who follows me from post to post harassing me and sending photos of his scrawny bare chest to me. Araford keep your nose in Canada, you don't know a damn thing that is really going on in the US and don't speak for someone else's culture. It's too bad you can't get the attentions of a local straight girl so you have to harass older women over the internet. Get a job!



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21 Aug 2007, 3:09 pm

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I've never lived any place where drunks lay on the sidewalk and in front of grocery stores. And they are always Navajo; I dunno why.
ive never lived in a place like this either. probably because alcohol is illegal on the rez. i once saw two navajos giving each other a bj behind target before lol. 8O

also there very f-ing rude. once i was with my mom at a fast food resturant and when we were in our car getting ready to leave a navajo tryed opening my moms door to ask her for money. my mother screamed and locked the doors, then he motioned for the window to be rolled down but we just rolled up on outta there


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21 Aug 2007, 3:26 pm

Ticker wrote:
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This makes me sad.


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Aradford is just being a butt. He is a worthless troll who follows me from post to post harassing me and sending photos of his scrawny bare chest to me. Araford keep your nose in Canada, you don't know a damn thing that is really going on in the US and don't speak for someone else's culture. It's too bad you can't get the attentions of a local straight girl so you have to harass older women over the internet. Get a job!


I am at my job... I get paid 23.50 to sit here on the internet...Then go to school to learn about other peoples culture, what do you know about your own? Not much I bet.

You sent me a PM first saying you wanted more pictures of my bare chest so I sent another one, not my fault you wanted it.



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21 Aug 2007, 3:29 pm

I never seen one, I think x:


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21 Aug 2007, 3:34 pm

I am just calling it how I see it. If you notice my stance I am not directly attacking you in anyway - except for the last post when I said you don't know much about your culture anyway - which is probably true seeing as the native peoples susceptibility to alcohol is not determined by a gene because this would imply that they all would be (and there are so many bloodlines) and I have seen successful native people who drank and it didn't destroy their lives - I don't know why you are being so mean to me. I just thought you needed some laughter in your life, I thought you would laugh Ticker, I thought you would be amused by my antics. I am sorry Ticker. I am sorry.



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21 Aug 2007, 3:45 pm

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21 Aug 2007, 4:17 pm

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there is a difference between the drunks, druggies and mentally ill vietnam vets that live on the streets and panhandlers. panhandlers often times live comfortable lives at the expense of morons. several news shows have interviewed people who panhandle and make $30,000 or more a year doing it and own a house and so forth. they would rather beg for money than work.


And hobo is technically a word for travelling homeless people who hitch hike, jump on trains, and camp on other people's property. Some aren't even homeless but do it as a means to travel when they don't have the money for lodging or transportation. Usually they don’t beg, they just ask for money in return for doing favors. It's usually a rip off. You get them in Latin America where they go around asking for money so they can wash or "guard" gullible tourist's cars but often they just walk off with the money.



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21 Aug 2007, 6:18 pm

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... a lot of native americans are missing a enzyme or something that breaks down alcohol properly. so it affects them differently than it does non-indians.


That is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard. ....

I've heard that Australian aboriginals are missing something (enzyme?) that breaks down alcohol too. :?


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21 Aug 2007, 6:33 pm

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They have a hard time because, historically, they got owned and have no culture or identity left. White culture will cover it up with some BS gene theory with their fancy pseudo scientific knowledge.

That's said of Australian aboriginies too, but I don't think that its true. Many Aboriginies live in reserves and townships where non-aboriginies are restricted entry. There are horrendous alcohol, drug, violence, child sex abuse, health and other problems (which all Australians should be ashamed of), in spite of huge amounts of government money being thrown at aboriginal organisations. There is an "aboriginal industry" that IMO has a vested interest in not fixing problems and likes to cling to the "noble savage" view of traditional culture.


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21 Aug 2007, 7:51 pm

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several news shows have interviewed people who panhandle and make $30,000 or more a year doing it and own a house and so forth. they would rather beg for money than work.

Simple math shows that it's not that hard to earn a lot of money while begging. Let's consider the following, using typical statistics for a downtown area (where most homeless hang out):
-> A beggar sees 10,000 people each day.
-> 1 in 20 people walking by him will give him money.
-> The money amount given by each passerby averages to $0.25.

So, 10000 * (1/20) = 500.
-> This means that 500 people will give a beggar money.

Then, 500 * $0.25 = $125.50.
-> This means that the beggar makes $125.00 a day.

Now, with that amount, they can afford at least a studio apartment, along with healthy food that people should be eating. Instead, they spend it all on drugs and alcohol. Shame!



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21 Aug 2007, 8:16 pm

Where I live they hold their signs on the corner, I won't give them money but I will go thru a drive-thru and buy them a combo meal. No one should be hungry, I also leave bags of food by the dumpsters. and when I lived in Sacramento CA I'd make a bunch of little sack lunches and ride the bike trails and give them to the homeless.(They hung about there for some reason). It always made ME feel good to help them. selfish in it's own way. I might not be able to "Stop Global Warming" by myself. But I can allievate one human beings hunger for a few hours by myself and even through it's a small difference it is something that I as an individual can do.
And I'm not completly sure, but I remember hearing that "Reganonmics," the economy when Reagan was President, they like let all of the people whio weren't a threat to anyone out of the mental health facilities cause they were costing too much and there was a big influx of homelessness, because some of these people were incapables of taking certain responsiabiltys and maintaing a "Normal lifestyle" A lot of these people have very tragic stories and are using alcohol to self-medicate, and some of them are just lazy drunks and druggies, but whatever their circumstances, no one should be hungry. (And if that makes me a bleeding-heart-liberial, then so be it.)


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