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Ritalin and other cocaine-based stimulants may work, but Omega-3 fish oil is probably just as effective without any of the life-threatening side-effects (such as stroke and heart failure).

Wow! AspieMartian!
Good job!

Now you've got me wondering if this person really is a 'troll' like that other one recently, the 14 y.o.... Kesky, Aske..something like that.
I just generally assume people are who they say they are

I suppose we'll see if she comes back and gives a good reply or not now.


I'm glad for those of you who have spoken up here.
Unlike Mr. Monk.. I do not feel all alone

It's no use to argue with conspiracy theorists like this character. All contrary evidence is rationalized away as part of the conspiracy.

Nope...

Sorry, we tried Omega-3 fish oil for quite a while.

It did nothing.

Ritalin had immediate effects.

oh... and Omega-3 isn't entirely without side-effects.



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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that fish oil is bad, only that, like everything else, it's not without side-effects.

Some conspiracy theories are interesting, it doesn't mean I believe them, I don't, but still interesting.

Wrong. Aspergars is high functioning Autism. And if you want to debate the validity of Autism, well, I don't have time to write a book today.
Quite a leap that I'm not willing to take with you. All these thoughts you have going through your head are not thoughts that are shared by me. I don't tell ppl about my autism unless its vitaly important, and for you to say its a "status symbol"? How is that?? I don't have the slightest of what you're talking about, I'm not insulted by others hanging on to their diagnoses as if it is the only thing they see that is special about themselves no, I take issue when ppl put their defensless children on toxic drugs or try to get my daugter tested or imply she has anything to do with this unproven disorder. No I'm not going to become a victim so that the schools make money off of us, so that our physician makes more money off of us, so that pharmaceutical companies make more money off of us. I do take issue with ppl saying they NEED to be on amphetamines, or those so lazy they'd rather shove poisons down their childrens throats than maybe sign them up for a sport and cut down on the video games. you really don't have to use foul language. Also, one wonders why you take my opinion so personally. You will not beat it out with crass language and gross generalizations. I'm offended by the willing victimization of Americans, yes I do indeed find it detestible. But in the end these things always seem to work themselves out when it comes to quality of life. The poisoning of American children is a very sad thing. Some kids are able to get off of it when they're old enough to make their own decisions, and some don't, some can't conquer the physical addiction, and even go on to harder drugs. If they're taking ampthetamines over the counter, then crack/cocaine/herion will not be such a huge leap for them. And guess who handed them their very first hit of meth? I have replied to every person here to the best of my ability Everyone has opinions. I have mine. They are not subjective for the simple fact that I do not share your views. Get off your pedistal. I am mindful, logical, scientific, and a bit detatched, too. You are wrong on all of those. there is a narcisism personality disorder. Maybe a little meth would fix all that?.... Actually I didn't expect to get such a negative response because, first of all, this is an Aspie group, not an ADD group. I've made a lot of other posts relating to Aspergers. Second, I didn't expect to get this kind of response bc I am merely stating an opinion and backing my opinion ith facts whenever I can. I don't see a problem with that, do you?
I don't respond to name calling


I'm having a real problem seeing what your point is when you rely so much of your argument on name-calling and petty insults. I'm all for a real debate but the repeated insults make it easy for me to tune you out as a bit hysterical.

I've responded to every poster. This is a lie. I've seen a lot of polls where I didn't agree with any of the choices. I'm pretty sure I gave an adequate amount of different opinions for everyone to choose from. Did you not see a choice on the poll that you could vote on?
There is no bullying in my pole, in fact quite the opposite is true - there are a lot of people here who are posting here disagreeing with my point of view. I could call that bullying, but I'm not into the victim thing like some ppl here are and I will respond to everyone who wants to discuss the issue at hand in a logical manner. This is an Aspie message board, not an "atypical" board. I didn't talk due to my Autism until I was 12, it wasn't because I am "atypical". I'm sorry you and others feel the overwhelming need to prove yourselves to me, maybe I should see it as a compliment? I can see no reason why you would feel so insulted by the opinion of an anonymous poster, on a site that is an Aspie site, not an ADD site.

lol is there a test for it?

I suggest you go to the home page of Wrong Planet and read who this site is for... you will find it is also for people with ADD/HD.

I agree that you are stating an opinion, but so far you have not provided any facts at all.
You did give a link to someone's website... he calls himself a 'ranger'? He promotes his own special health items, books, and treatments, and he interviewed one physician about ADD/HD.
Nothing there that is fact that I see.
It's all opinions just like what we have here is it not?

You seem to not understand that when you come here and start telling people that ADD/HD does not exist, yet you offer no proof to your claims, those who are diagnosed with ADD/HD, those parents with children who are diagnosed with ADD/HD, will take offense.

I'll save you the trouble of going to the home page... here's what Alex has at the top middle section of that page...

It doesn't matter if you guys keep ganging up on me, I'm going to keep responding


I don't know why you would feel alone, since ADD/ADHD dignoses have gone up 930% since its inception in 1970

And if you look at the top of the page you'll see it says "WrongPlanet, The online resource and community for those with Aspergars Syndrome" "Attention" is a behavior of the body, "Hyperactivity" is a behavior, they are not disorders!

Methamphetamines do have immediate effects. It's called a quick high. But it is a toxic drug.

Fish oil is not a toxic drug. If you truly are interested in natural alternatives you can PM me


Thats a lotta fishoil! Did you have any of these side effects when you tried it?




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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that fish oil is bad, only that, like everything else, it's not without side-effects.[/quote]

Is Asperger's a disorder?

You have traits of a perfectionist, you have some absent-mindedness, and as you said, these are a part of you. These are your quirks, what makes you different, human. They are behaviors. Not a disorder

So you dance around what I posted instead dealing with what was written?
What you have posted above has nothing at all to do with your statement that WP is only about AS and not ADD.
You made the claim... I refuted it with evidence... you come back with this?



Here's the wording of your poll.
Do you not think it is loaded toward the negative?
The top two questions claim ADD is not real.
The third one allows the choice to pick the top two together.
Then you move into the fourth where you say "I think it's real", but you qualify that by claiming television, computers, and junk food are to blame for some part of it all.
Lastly, you finally give an option for someone to say that they believe it is a medical disorder.

Right there, you have shown prejudice towards anyone who believes in ADD/HD.

Next...
Your first post on that thread is this...


Here, you start to attack those who have diagnosis of ADD/HD.
You lay the foundation for your attacks here.

With all that, why would you think people would not be upset about this?

I'm baffled you cannot see how your words are seen as inflammatory... not just simple opinion.. but you are actually challenging people and their diagnosis.

Again, you claim to have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome.
You refuse to say how this diagnosis was made or by whom.
You do not want the validity of you Asperger's challenged the same way you challenge the validity of my ADD/HD diagnosis.

The only thing you've presented so far to 'back up' your views was the link to Adams' website. That's it!
One lousy interview with one doctor who uses generalizations in this interview to state his case.

You brought this up and when people challenge you back... you turn the argument to something else.. as in you claim about this website.

I'd check out any other information you have concerning ADD/HD if you would present some.
I do think you have folks here that do agree on some aspects of your argument... just not the part where you claim ADD/HD is not real.

I'm sorry if you have had a tough time with your daugther and the school system/doctors.
I'm glad you are not willing to blindly throw medication down her throat... I truly wish more patients and their families were more like that.

I just think you could do a better job of arguing your case here, than you have so far.

Aspergers is high-functioning Autism. And yes, Autism is a pervasive developemental brain disorder.

Funny how I respond to EVERY PARAGRAPH that you write. If I miss a sentence you freak out. Before I answer anymore of what you've written, I want you to go back and respond to EVERY paragraph I have written for a change. Although you've had so many chances, you have yet to prove your point in my thread. The only thing you've proven is your inability to prove your point. I'm not going to answer all your questions you pick and choose what you talk about. There's no such thing as gremlins, and there's no such thing as ADD/ADHD being a real disorder. I will listen to anyone else who can actually prove its real.

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