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29 Nov 2008, 7:01 pm

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I believe in voluntary euthanasia so people who want to die, assuming they are informed and that is their absolute decision I have no problem with.


Same.


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29 Nov 2008, 7:01 pm

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http://mailroomexchange.blogspot.com/2007/02/prison-facilities-in-austria.html
LOL! This is actually a prison in Austria! Looks more like a vacation villa!



Wow, I might've stayed a little longer if my cell was like that. 8O :twisted:


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29 Nov 2008, 7:03 pm

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Exactly. God knows the government hands out enough welfare packets, in both Britain and the USA! My family would technically be poor enough for benefits until recently, but we didn't take it because Mum reckons people should stand on their own two feet as much as possible (I agree with her). So it's not like theft was the only option.



I'm on benefits thank you very much. I'm a care-leaver who wants to continue higher education so that I can get a good job regardless of my circumstances which I have no control over and eventually pay for myself.

It took me 8 months to get on the system and if I had applied after leaving care I would have been homesless. My relatives are not in the right state to support me, be it mentally or physically. Your family sounds like they didn't need benefits. You do not know the true meaning of desperate.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:05 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
timeisdead wrote:
http://mailroomexchange.blogspot.com/2007/02/prison-facilities-in-austria.html
LOL! This is actually a prison in Austria! Looks more like a vacation villa!


WTH?! And Austria as well...that's the treatment that bloody Josef Fritzl's getting??! !

THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS SCREWED.


It's absolutely unreal. A luxury spa is supposed to deter future criminals?



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29 Nov 2008, 7:06 pm

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Exactly. God knows the government hands out enough welfare packets, in both Britain and the USA! My family would technically be poor enough for benefits until recently, but we didn't take it because Mum reckons people should stand on their own two feet as much as possible (I agree with her). So it's not like theft was the only option.



I'm on benefits thank you very much. I'm a care-leaver who wants to continue higher education so that I can get a good job regardless of my circumstances which I have no control over and eventually pay for myself.

It took me 8 months to get on the system and if I had applied after leaving care I would have been homesless. My relatives are not in the right state to support me, be it mentally or physically. Your family sounds like they didn't need benefits. You do not know the true meaning of desperate.


That's my point, you sound like you actually need it. My family doesn't, so we didn't take it. The benefits system should be for people who really do need financial support, not those who COULD get by without public money.


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29 Nov 2008, 7:11 pm

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timeisdead wrote:
http://mailroomexchange.blogspot.com/2007/02/prison-facilities-in-austria.html
LOL! This is actually a prison in Austria! Looks more like a vacation villa!



Wow, I might've stayed a little longer if my cell was like that. 8O :twisted:

Sounds like an ideal place for the perpetual freeloaders of the world. This place could give them more than welfare ever could. Besides, working is for clowns when you can commit a double homicide and end up in a luxury villa.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:12 pm

It's not easy to get on the benefits system, and they are always trying to take me off it or reduce my benefits (ie they can do it without giving an explanation and basically if I try to appeal they can reduce even further).

I think benefit fraud has been made into a hyperbole by the media. I bet most of it comes from those who are no longer on benefit and who happen to have 'gotten lucky' or at least, a lucky postcode.

The benefit people leave no stone unturned. I can't even get EMA, not because I'm not legible but because for the past two years they've been sending my claims back and asking for more and more evidence because I haven't the guardians to supply it. I'll be too old next week. I'm owed hundreds maybe thousands of pounds that I had to borrow from other sources to help me with education, indeed everyday I'm learning on borrowed time. I'll never see that money.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:14 pm

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It's not easy to get on the benefits system, and they are always trying to take me off it or reduce my benefits (ie they can do it without giving an explanation and basically if I try to appeal they can reduce even further).

I think benefit fraud has been made into a hyperbole by the media. I bet most of it comes from those who are no longer on benefit and who happen to have 'gotten lucky' or at least, a lucky postcode.

The benefit people leave no stone unturned. I can't even get EMA, not because I'm not legible but because for the past two years they've been sending my claims back and asking for more and more evidence because I haven't the guardians to supply it. I'll be too old next week. I'm owed hundreds maybe thousands of pounds that I had to borrow from other sources to help me with education, indeed everyday I'm learning on borrowed time. I'll never see that money.


What country are you in?


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29 Nov 2008, 7:15 pm

England. :)



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29 Nov 2008, 7:20 pm

Same as me, then.

Maybe different sorts of benefits are easier to get than others, I dunno.


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29 Nov 2008, 7:25 pm

If it helps, housing was insanely easy to get, but that may have been because I applied through my landlord and they were used to the system. Income support...goodness, I can't wish that anybody. 8 months of hell and paperwork after paperwork, running back and forth. Even my social worker lost her temper a few times with those people over the phone. EMA is the worst for me. Will never get it. Could be due to my unusual circumstances but, it doesn't excuse how they've treated me.

It's a strange system. I got a form sent back once for failing to declare my ethnicity. They could have asked me over the phone- it wasn't vital information. They were merely stalling.

I'm sure some parts of the UK have better services than others though.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:28 pm

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If it helps, housing was insanely easy to get, but that may have been because I applied through my landlord and they were used to the system. Income support...goodness, I can't wish that anybody. 8 months of hell and paperwork after paperwork, running back and forth. Even my social worker lost her temper a few times with those people over the phone. EMA is the worst for me. Will never get it. Could be due to my unusual circumstances but, it doesn't excuse how they've treated me.

It's a strange system. I got a form sent back once for failing to declare my ethnicity. They could have asked me over the phone- it wasn't vital information. They were merely stalling.

I'm sure some parts of the UK have better services than others though.


Ethnicity is irrelevant information anyway.


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29 Nov 2008, 8:03 pm

If I may throw in my two cents: it doesn't seem like you defend the death penalty, it seems like you would like to kill this bully yourself.


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29 Nov 2008, 8:23 pm

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What's wrong with prison for life, then?



It costs the taxpayers over $30K/year for each inmate in prison. They should use the death-penalty, especially for those inmates who want it. There are quite a few who actually want to die, and I think they should get their wish.



It costs more than that to put an inmate to death so it's cheaper to keep them alive.


I agree, I think inmates should be allowed to kill themselves or get put to death if they wish. But then again I can see why inmates aren't allowed to commit suicide. They are free from the punishment when they are dead. Especially when they kill themselves before the execution because it means they win.



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30 Nov 2008, 4:11 am

I think there should be a death penalty but only for very very serious things.

Put yourself in the shoes of a mother, now imagine your 4 year old child had been raped by someone, you would want them to get the harshest punishment possible, wouldnt you?

Or if you where a parent of the boy in the article (linked to in the first post), I know I certainly would want the bully to die.

In fact, they should make it so the person who is effected by the crime can shoot the offender... Now that is justice!



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30 Nov 2008, 5:30 am

I'd go one step further than paralysing the bully. I'd paralyse the mother and father, too. They raise their kids, they are responsible for them. I agree with the original post. Some people only understand brute force. But that's assuming this has all played out like everyone says it has. The news report wasn't exactly great in shedding much light on the situation.