02 Jul 2011, 6:12 am
02 Jul 2011, 7:55 am
all_white wrote:
Can't Americans learn to get this right? They are constantly referring to "English" and "British" people as though they were the same thing. Yes, all English people are British, but not all British people are English.
Britain = England, Scotland, and Wales. Thus, "British" people are not exclusively English. They can be Scottish or Welsh.
The UK = Britain + Northern Ireland.
It's time for that amazingly brilliant, mega-fast video again:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10[/youtube]
Britain = England, Scotland, and Wales. Thus, "British" people are not exclusively English. They can be Scottish or Welsh.
The UK = Britain + Northern Ireland.
It's time for that amazingly brilliant, mega-fast video again:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10[/youtube]
This is one of my pet hates too! I don't think this is just an American problem though. Almost everyone I meet from outside the UK thinks that Britain = England.
I like the fact that the video has Wales coloured white. Probably due to all our lovely clouds. Apparently in the planned updated video, Wales will be coloured red. Probably due to our obsession with dragons.
02 Jul 2011, 8:37 am
Indy wrote:
I like the fact that the video has Wales coloured white. Probably due to all our lovely clouds. Apparently in the planned updated video, Wales will be coloured red. Probably due to our obsession with dragons.
Some English people have an obsession with dragons too. Personally, I would like to see this flag as the official flag of England:
[img][800:481]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/e6/20090609181519!White_Dragon_Flag_of_England.png[/img]
http://www.whitedragonflagofengland.com/
02 Jul 2011, 11:31 am
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago.. only politically-correct pedantry says we must now differentiate every time. 
02 Jul 2011, 11:38 am
Fudo wrote:
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago.. only politically-correct pedantry says we must now differentiate every time.
Not by me.
02 Jul 2011, 11:41 am
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Zen wrote:
Don't forget make-up while sleeping, and perfect hair and make-up when they just wake up.
Check and mate! I've also got bejeweled fake nails! They're so glamorous.
I bet you also live in a fancy loft apartment in New York City even though you don't actually have a job.
02 Jul 2011, 11:54 am
Henbane wrote:
Fudo wrote:
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago.. only politically-correct pedantry says we must now differentiate every time.
Not by me.
not unless you're 80+, still, i think too big a fuss is made.. it's not like we actually live in a united kingdom.
02 Jul 2011, 12:50 pm
02 Jul 2011, 12:54 pm
Fudo wrote:
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago.. only politically-correct pedantry says we must now differentiate every time.
One of the reasons for 'correctness' (not of the political variety) being sought is that English people themselves have,quite rightly,begun to realise that their own nationality is being overlooked in the confusion of allowing the interchangeability between Britain/England.
There is a difference between pedantry and simply wanting to be accurate for good reasons.
02 Jul 2011, 1:22 pm
pluto wrote:
Fudo wrote:
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago.. only politically-correct pedantry says we must now differentiate every time.
One of the reasons for 'correctness' (not of the political variety) being sought is that English people themselves have,quite rightly,begun to realise that their own nationality is being overlooked in the confusion of allowing the interchangeability between Britain/England.
There is a difference between pedantry and simply wanting to be accurate for good reasons.
I agree. My mother is Scottish, and she gets deeply annoyed when people use the term Britain for England, or even worse when she hears people use the term England to include Scotland.
I'd like to see an English Parliament, on a par with the Scottish, so we can be united, but also have a fairer system.
Of course, with the EU, neither England nor Scotland has a huge amount of autonomy regardless of our individual Parliamentary situation.
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02 Jul 2011, 4:11 pm
Fudo wrote:
england was used and accepted as a name for britain until not so long ago..
By English people, yes, to an extent. But not to such an extent by British people...
02 Jul 2011, 6:28 pm
02 Jul 2011, 6:31 pm
jmnixon95 wrote:
I'd just detest the government.
You would fit right in!
02 Jul 2011, 6:31 pm
except boris johnson 
& given your last president, it's a little soon to say anything
02 Jul 2011, 6:36 pm
Fudo wrote:
& given your last president, it's a little soon to say anything
Pleeeeeeeeeease.
Current one is worse.
02 Jul 2011, 6:41 pm
in a way, i agree.. but i'm also quite anti-republican.. vaguely socialist. so bush was the enemy for a while.
not that i vote, or have any faith in democracy. when the revolution comes though...
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