Did you cry over the sad dead of Steve Jobs?

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16 Oct 2011, 6:45 pm

He had a much better life in his 50-something years than most 100 year old people ever had.
Why cry?



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18 Oct 2011, 6:19 pm

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no. i can't understand why anyone would weep over the death of someone they never knew. also the man was a horrid excuse for a human and i'm quite glad he died as he was starting his retirement so he couldn't enjoy the money he got by screwing other people over.


I will assume that you are not being intentionally provocative simply to elicit a reaction. The only way anyone could criticize Steve Jobs (based on all the interviews I know of) is that he was a demanding boss with a temper. Anyone working for Jobs had the option to quit. I suspect that few did.

Jobs' through his companies helped revive the music industry when he created the iTunes store. Recording artists are glad Jobs made this contribution. Millions of people who use Apple products and enjoy watching Pixar films are glad that he helped make those companies succeed. Even those who don't use Apple products benefited through other products that copied that innovation.


technological advancement is all very well and good but it never, never ever comes before humans. yet that is exactly where jobs placed them. he got foxconn to manufacture his stuff because its cheap labour, like a $1.18 dollars an hour cheap. then there are the working conditions at foxconn. . also i want to know why his employees had to sighn non disclosure clauses in their contracts- surely not all of them had knowledge that could have damaged his buisiness(besides working conditions).

read this if you doubt that jobs was a piece of work: http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/09/ ... onics.html


Not to mention the fact that Apple monitors and otherwise invades the privacy of their users in their iPhones - and other equipment, as well, most probably. Photographs are taken of what you do on it, all your texts are saved, even when you think you deleted them years ago, a GPS tracking "bug" that now has been fixed/removed, and more. Don't lose your iPhone, Apple users - it's a gold mine for criminals and immoral people. Sell or lose your iPhone, and maybe you will find those intimate photos of you and your girlfriend/boyfriend, on an amateur porno site, afterwards... and don't use it on a computer, as all that sensitive information then will be backed up on that computer, and of course any other you use it on. Oh, and no warranty on the piece of crap thing if you use it in temperatures below zero! What the hell do they even do here in Sweden? Maybe they should be forced to stop selling their crap, here, like they managed to convince a moronic German court to stop allowing the sale of a Samsung mobile, although for entirely other reasons that were for the benefits of Apple.

Article about the crappiness of Apple, with various links to older articles (it's in Swedish - use Google Translate):
http://svt.se/2.22620/1.2555838/hard_kr ... nyheter%29

About how little they give a fùck about your privacy (in Swedish):
http://svt.se/2.106391/1.2460677/iphone ... t1451716=2


No, I am not sad that he died. Instead, I am glad that he got cancer and now is dead. Too bad it didn't happen even sooner. Who knows what sorts of damage he has done to the privacy of countless of people?

I find it rather funny, by the way, that people give a damn about an immoral person such as him, with several threads already made about his death, while no one's so far even posted one single thread, on this forum, about the almost three thousand deaths in that recent ferry disaster between Tanzania and Zanzibar. Clearly, Steve Jobs is worth more than all of those.



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18 Oct 2011, 6:59 pm

No. Never knew the guy. People die, life goes on. Sure he created a company, but so what? How many are going to cry when Bill Gates dies, I wonder? How many will cry when Oprah dies?



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18 Oct 2011, 7:06 pm

Dennis Ritchie died a few days ago - I wonder how many people have even heard of him, never mind what he accomplished.
He actually did help change the world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... is-ritchie


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18 Oct 2011, 7:48 pm

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Dennis Ritchie died a few days ago - I wonder how many people have even heard of him, never mind what he accomplished.
He actually did help change the world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... is-ritchie


Dennis Ritchie didn't invent the new 'cool', so who cares about him? :P

You'd better have been cool, or part of it, at least for some time in your life, if you are to be properly remembered. Otherwise, you'll just end up a number in the statistics. Who remembers the architect behind Taj Mahal? The Shah Jahan asked if he loved his wife, which he did, so he killed her so he'd be able to understand the suffering that he was experiencing, for having lost his "favourite" wife to death, and therefore perform better. No one remembers that, but instead thinks of the "romance" of the story. Just attempt to make people remember the positive, and you may be remembered for too long to count.



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18 Oct 2011, 7:55 pm

Beauty_pact wrote:
Dennis Ritchie didn't invent the new 'cool', so who cares about him? :P

You'd better have been cool, or part of it, at least for some time in your life, if you are to be properly remembered. Otherwise, you'll just end up a number in the statistics. Who remembers the architect behind Taj Mahal? The Shah Jahan asked if he loved his wife, which he did, so he killed her so he'd be able to understand the suffering that he was experiencing, for having lost his "favourite" wife to death, and therefore perform better. No one remembers that, but instead thinks of the "romance" of the story. Just attempt to make people remember the positive, and you may be remembered for too long to count.
Spot on. :wink:


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30 Oct 2011, 6:55 am

Cry no. I don't cry over death. But I was sad and bummed.



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30 Oct 2011, 6:59 am

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No. I didn't even cry when my mother died or when my daughter was born.

See, I've got this thing called Asperger's syndrome. It limits my emotional range to frustration, goofiness and happy.


Hahahahha! Not a bad range of emotions to have :)



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30 Oct 2011, 9:24 am

I hope that's not it for Apple. Apple is a good company.


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30 Oct 2011, 9:52 am

I felt sad and bummed for a bit, there are certainly people who waste air on this planet that I'd rather see them dead than Jobs, but cry? No...

Steve Jobs was certainly a tech visionary but all he really did was create shiny gadgets for consumers and make a corporation and an army of lawyers rich. I mean really, what was so great about his life? Bill Gates did more good than Steve Jobs.

Apple is just another corporation, they're just more successful at maintaining a "good company" image. In many ways Apple is more evil than other corporations, but people only see glass walls and sparkling clean white walls of their stores.



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30 Oct 2011, 10:26 am

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In many ways Apple is more evil than other corporations, but people only see glass walls and sparkling clean white walls of their stores.
Yes. There's a hairs-breadth between Microsoft and Apple - which is basically just Microsoft with class and a decent OS.
Both are playing patent troll games and harming everyone who isn't a lawyer.


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30 Oct 2011, 2:39 pm

No. There are much sadder deaths occurring everyday that nobody knows about.



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30 Oct 2011, 2:42 pm

Absolutely not. I rarely cry and will not for strangers. As far as Steve Jobs: I do not use Apple products so his existence was irrelevant to me. :?


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30 Oct 2011, 5:45 pm

No more overpriced trendy garbage gadgets for the next couple of months, what ever shall I do? I barely bat an eye when someone close to me dies, words can't express how little I care for someone whom I've never even met.