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04 Feb 2016, 10:32 pm

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I'm going to suggest to the mods that this thread be moved to the PP&R forum.

It fits in perfectly here. If read the mission of Random Thoughts it states:For non-Asperger's related random discussion.Talk about anything and everything not covered in the other forums here. From shoes and ships and sealing wax, to cabbages and kings! Therefore any topic on a persons mind

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04 Feb 2016, 10:35 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

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It's not possible to sell your soul, because your soul doesn't belong to you. It belongs to God.

And the devil is the evil one?....at least he gives you the option if you want to give him your soul or not.

Good Point

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04 Feb 2016, 10:44 pm

Barchan wrote:

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And the devil is the evil one?....at least he gives you the option

No, God gives you the option. The devil thinks your free will is a nuisance; he'd take it away in a second if he had the power.

Therefore, put a clause where he cannot take away

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04 Feb 2016, 10:54 pm

Barchan wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

And the devil is the evil one?....at least he gives you the option

No, God gives you the option. The devil thinks your free will is a nuisance; he'd take it away in a second if he had the power.

Yet God presumes to own everyone's soul without them having say in the matter, seems he sees it as more of a nuisance. I say everyone owns their own soul until they decide to sell it to whatever spiritual entity they see fit.

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04 Feb 2016, 10:54 pm

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1. A billion euros
2. My own harem (Because why not?

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3.A copy of my current soul wich will replace my current one.

I would probably convert those euros into dollars

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04 Feb 2016, 10:57 pm

@sweetleaf

Very Good Point

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04 Feb 2016, 11:01 pm

What does "selling your soul to the Devil" mean exactly in practical terms?

It would have to mean inflicting harm, or committing some kind of crime. Otherwise you wouldnt be serving the Devil would you?

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04 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm

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Not necessarily I don't think.

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04 Feb 2016, 11:08 pm

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No committing crimes. It would be a Faustian deal with contracts and stipulations. The Faust is the protagonist of a classic German legend. He is a scholar who is highly successful yet dissatisfied with his life, which leads him to make a pact with the Devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasure. You can have three things in the entire world? Would you do it

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04 Feb 2016, 11:11 pm

HELL NO!! I mean, no.

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04 Feb 2016, 11:13 pm

nurseangela wrote:

HELL NO!! I mean, no.

Not if your life was miserable like the Faust?

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04 Feb 2016, 11:16 pm

frenchmanflats wrote:

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HELL NO!! I mean, no.

Not if your life was miserable like the Faust?

No, dude. I'm just visiting here. I don't want to miss what comes after.

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05 Feb 2016, 7:29 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

Barchan wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

And the devil is the evil one?....at least he gives you the option

No, God gives you the option. The devil thinks your free will is a nuisance; he'd take it away in a second if he had the power.

Well unfortunately what you, or I say or think in the matter is irrelevant. If God is there, what he says goes, whether you think it fair or not. Trust me, I wrestle with the frustrating nature of this concept daily. If you don't believe it, in many ways you're better off.

But you have it sort of backwards if we're speaking in religious terms. God could not see free-will as a nuisance or he wouldn't have created it. If God exists he DOES own EVERYTHING because he created it all. God doesn't need to presume because he knows. We presume.

The Devil as the victim is basically the backbone to Luciferianism. It believes Satan was only trying to enlighten us when he got Eve to eat the apple, and that God really suppresses us because he fears what we can become. The Devil was banished to Hell for being our advocate to god as to the unfairness of the system.

Looks like all that metal music taught you some stuff huh? :wink:

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05 Feb 2016, 7:31 am

naturalplastic wrote:

From what I've heard, be it fantasy, urban legend, or real, is the way to actually sell ones soul involves a ritual of drinking infant blood. So yes, it involves service to Satan. If you want to continue being on this Earth, you'll slave away to serve or he'll just come to collect.

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05 Feb 2016, 9:27 am

Well if there are souls and there are devils then your soul is not yours to sell

Satan is not an equal entity to god, he cannot be more powerful because he was created by God just as you and I were but rebelled against the authority of God and was cast out of heaven along with the rebelling angels.

or something like that

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05 Feb 2016, 4:25 pm

The story of Robert Johnson is creepy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUK1P5x9Xak

His peers noticed an unrealistic increase in his skills, whereas before noone could stand to listen to him,
Then he emerges as the best guitar player.

He recorded several songs about the devil like 'hellhounds on my trail'

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