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11 Jun 2018, 4:55 am

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It is belittling to suggest that well-meaning advisors' goals are to make others miserable. It is belittling to suggest that well-meaning advisors are seeking to be worshipped. It is belittling to direct lies and insults towards well-meaning advisors who simply want to share what they have learned to people who haven't learned it yet.


I just don't understand why some people here don't like the way I say things! What's wrong with them!? They all need to change their ways, not me!


I know you’re autistic, but did you even read what he wrote before you reaponded to it? :?


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11 Jun 2018, 8:39 am

Uhh... Goldy? Ezra?

Please don't turn this thread into another battle-zone for your personal feud.

I started this rant to blow off some steam; but if I have to ask that it be closed, I will.


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11 Jun 2018, 8:44 am

Smoking’s not good for you...but that guy’s already dead....so I guess he feels liberated.



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11 Jun 2018, 9:42 am

The smoke rings are somewhat mesmerizing.



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18 Jun 2018, 8:52 am

nvm just read thread a bit more
stupid me



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18 Jun 2018, 8:56 am

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Literally ALL you do, Fnord, is belittle, complain and make others miserable. You did it the entire time you were here last and you're doing it now. Why did you even come back? You think your "wisdom" is deserving of worship, but all your are is a know-nothing cynic who mouths off crap everyone already knows. You think you're explaining the obvious to the oblivious? Who do you think you are? You think an edgy avatar and an even edgier sig makes you some kind of zen master or something? What's the purpose of your rants? No one asked for your "great knowledge," no one wants your "great knowledge," and it's neither great nor even knowledge. You can't understand that not everyone will or even can have the same outcome as you, so you do what everyone else does and belittle, attack, flame, troll, mouth off and complain. Just shut up for once in your life. No one wants to hear you.
Agreed. Edgier than a bismuth lol. Think this thread was made to trigger some people.
Evidence, please?


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18 Jun 2018, 9:10 am

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Literally ALL you do, Fnord, is belittle, complain and make others miserable. You did it the entire time you were here last and you're doing it now. Why did you even come back? You think your "wisdom" is deserving of worship, but all your are is a know-nothing cynic who mouths off crap everyone already knows. You think you're explaining the obvious to the oblivious? Who do you think you are? You think an edgy avatar and an even edgier sig makes you some kind of zen master or something? What's the purpose of your rants? No one asked for your "great knowledge," no one wants your "great knowledge," and it's neither great nor even knowledge. You can't understand that not everyone will or even can have the same outcome as you, so you do what everyone else does and belittle, attack, flame, troll, mouth off and complain. Just shut up for once in your life. No one wants to hear you.
Agreed. Edgier than a bismuth lol. Think this thread was made to trigger some people.
Evidence, please?


I see you have built up quite a following of anti-fnorders if some are to be believed. Good work fella :wink:


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18 Jun 2018, 9:17 am

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Wabuu wrote:
Literally ALL you do, Fnord, is belittle, complain and make others miserable. You did it the entire time you were here last and you're doing it now. Why did you even come back? You think your "wisdom" is deserving of worship, but all your are is a know-nothing cynic who mouths off crap everyone already knows. You think you're explaining the obvious to the oblivious? Who do you think you are? You think an edgy avatar and an even edgier sig makes you some kind of zen master or something? What's the purpose of your rants? No one asked for your "great knowledge," no one wants your "great knowledge," and it's neither great nor even knowledge. You can't understand that not everyone will or even can have the same outcome as you, so you do what everyone else does and belittle, attack, flame, troll, mouth off and complain. Just shut up for once in your life. No one wants to hear you.
Agreed. Edgier than a bismuth lol. Think this thread was made to trigger some people.
Evidence, please?
I see you have built up quite a following of anti-fnorders if some are to be believed. Good work fella :wink:
Meh. It's the "Girl-Gamer" effect -- take a stand on any one subject, and hordes of people will stand in line to beat you up over it. :roll:


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18 Jun 2018, 9:20 am

I kind of misinterpreted some of it because of my bad English (not my first language). Had to read it again a bit. Apologies for earlier in that case.



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18 Jun 2018, 9:33 am

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Meh. It's the "Girl-Gamer" effect -- take a stand on any one subject, and hordes of people will stand in line to beat you up over it. :roll:


Yeah , probably so. My GF had to put up with the "Girl-Gamer" effect with online games so she decided not to use a mic and it solved that problem. I have have no problem having my ass handed to me by a girl in a video game :lol:


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18 Jun 2018, 9:35 am

I will say though that I often talk online and sometimes about subjects like this because of my inability to talk in real life. As in, I've never spoken in my life because of a birth defect that resulted in my vocal cords not being able to form properly. As such, I often talk online about certain subjects instead. I can communicate to people in real life through sign language, but there's often a bit of a barrier between people and them being able to understand me. I sometimes talk about struggles that I face in real life, like MDD and epilepsy and other stuff. It can be hard, you know? With that being said, I at least try to listen to what other people say these days. I also try to take opportunities to talk about a variety of subjects to effectively vary my uses of communication that I can apply to real life. I feel pretty good now, though.



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18 Jun 2018, 9:41 am

You seem like a good person, PP. Welcome to WrongPlanet!


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18 Jun 2018, 9:44 am

Thanks!

Can I just ask a question, Fnord? Where do you often see these kinds of threads where people seek help and shun other people's support? I used to be a bit like how you're describing in the OP. Makes me cringe lol.

I'm assuming a lot of threads on Reddit are like that?



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18 Jun 2018, 9:51 am

When people "shun other people's support," it usually means they either want to "rant," or to "just get something off their chest."

Depression can make people have contradictory feelings. They might want the help----but they might be angry that they have to ask for the help in the first place---so they adopt an angry posture to those who seek to help them.

There are times, I've noticed, that people disregard advice when given....but then realize that the advice was good later. That's why I believe that giving advice, even to those who are resistant "at the moment," could prove useful in the end.



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18 Jun 2018, 9:54 am

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... Where do you often see these kinds of threads where people seek help and shun other people's support?
There seemed to be a spate of such threads on this website in the first few months of this year -- members posting their personal problems -- the same ones in multiple threads -- and then either ignoring or attacking the advice they were given.
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I used to be a bit like how you're describing in the OP. Makes me cringe lol.
I used to be that way too, until I realized that the reason no one liked me was mainly because I kept complaining that no one liked me! The realization hit me like a virtual slap in the face -- I was making my own problems, and I had no one to blame but myself. Trying to share this wisdom with others only provoked their anger toward me.
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I'm assuming a lot of threads on Reddit are like that?
I don't know ... I don't habituate Reddit ... too many trolls and pervs.


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18 Jun 2018, 10:09 am

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When people "shun other people's support," it usually means they either want to "rant," or to "just get something off their chest."...
If they just want to rant, then they should say so (see the subject line of this thread, for example), otherwise, it should be safe to assume that they are seeking advice.

There is a third option that even the moderators seem to overlook -- trolling. A troll is a person who submits provocative posts for the sole purpose of attacking people who respond to them. Most such people seem to find their way to the PP&R forum, where they thrive on debate within the looser environment there. Some post their crap in fora where it will stir up the most anger -- posting anti-LGBTQ hate-propaganda in the "LGBT Discussion" forum, for example.

I'm referring to the kind of troll that will submit a "poor, poor me" post in any random forum (maybe several in rapid succession), and then either attack the advice they are given, attack the person giving the advice, or both.


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