How Serious Do You Think COVID-19 is Compared to the Flu?

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31 Mar 2020, 8:37 am

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Importantly, the results we present here suggest the ongoing epidemics in the UK and Italy started at least a month before the first reported death and have already led to the accumulation of significant levels of herd immunity in both countries. There is an inverse relationship between the proportion currently immune and the fraction of the population vulnerable to severe disease.

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Every week a person dies in Berlin from multi-resistant germs. That adds up to 35,000 a year in Germany. This is not mentioned at all. I believe that we have had situations like this several times and that the measures are now being taken too far.

I am of the opinion that maybe one should not do so much against young people having parties together and infecting each other. We have to build immunity somehow. How can that be possible without contacts? The younger ones handle the infection much better. But we have to protect the elderly, and protect them in a way that can be scrutinized; is it reasonable what we are doing now, to stretch out the epidemic in a way that almost paralyzes the entire world economy?

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It is striking that earlier this year global health alerts have been triggered as a result of infections by a coronavirus detected in China, COVID-19, knowing that each year there are 3 million newborns who die in the world of pneumonia and 50,000 adults in the United States for the same cause, without alarms being issued.

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To put things in proportion, the number of deaths of coronavirus in Italy is 10% of the number of deaths of influenza in the country between 2016-2017.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/?fbclid=IwAR3l17aA3gCgmtAx0U-6hLqqtnKggIth5RVBcWY47chCemHFTvOq-S7i4TY&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=da3a6a484eb5fa488c13ab15f1e5dfcc6693eeef-1585661386-0-AU12zi3ooO18J2vkVe54d87KHsJVT9VAXk7_Vgl3WoOIOK-EnmHV411zZttedzIqzERU0Jf5jHXNyT2ibybv6B3pwB61dk2cAUDKAewoOFlfwwAlZHnSVlqwopqxLGbeNUdczK-iq1UMPLay2_IvGlxrmPJBx_HXaUQ0G4kn7y2Smoeq9yqAKCpX4G-XAuJRs9UWdp0vCS4b30PGPcwTXRU54OglQZF5hrHD9eQi3VJEzrjEFfVb3x6E3b8mcv8yKfSnksQ2gsZU2giVzp6Wzf1MJaqJSReu_CVHvPc2R8E56tlfMrFI4Ii-VRykqWpZ3ZuKtzAePTt1Ix8zgRtRTJd_DpxJtnMQ8WwuVfYVDQoNGscaZoIyOUw1NWaZNp214ZfyepZw5J7F-AWBJOvioSm_2WWE4iQoOfSvZ_e9xLAEpaNj8l3bjjCmjLxV8J-dmQ

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31 Mar 2020, 8:38 am

It might not be as deadly, but it seems to be more virulent, so I'm taking it seriously.

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31 Mar 2020, 8:44 am

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:

Precious lil "people" overreacted about wildfires, y2k, earthquake, tornado

Nobody cared about Y2K. Absolutely nobody.

But on the morning of 9/11, people thought the world was ending.

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31 Mar 2020, 10:56 am

Syd wrote:

Nobody cared about Y2K. Absolutely nobody.

As one of the developers who helped fix Y2K, the reason nobody had to care is that we fixed it in time. Thanks for all the paid overtime.

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31 Mar 2020, 11:01 am

funeralxempire wrote:

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:

I am not a doctor but maybe coronovirus is similar to the flu

"Much Ado about nothing"

Overreaction

Pandemic pandemonium

Precious lil "people" overreacted about wildfires, y2k, earthquake, tornado

It's easy to pretend people are over-reacting to a problem that hasn't personally affected you.

Are you sure he did not lose his job over it?

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31 Mar 2020, 11:04 am

I sure am seeing a hell of a lot of virtue signalling over this. Pretty similar to climate catastrophe. After this is over they can get back to the imminent end of the world.

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31 Mar 2020, 11:07 am

If I were forced to place a nominal value of "how much more serious" it is I'm going to go with 12.6 times more serious.

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02 Apr 2020, 5:45 am

It would be interesting to compare how many health workers die of Flu and Covid. Presumably they all receive the best possible care. As of yesterday 4 have succumbed to Covid-19 in the UK.

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02 Apr 2020, 6:41 am

If you aren't worried about it and would like a job this may be the perfect time to apply for work in a hospital.

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02 Apr 2020, 7:53 am

True that. Or even volunteer.

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02 Apr 2020, 8:36 am

At work we occasionally hire volunteers. It is a good way to see their customer service skills, as we have very few jobs that don't require them. I think if you are an Aspie that is good at masking you may have what it takes to do customer service in certain settings, such as something related to a special interest. This can allow you to do something day in and day out, while a normal person can't do that without getting sick of it.

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02 Apr 2020, 9:15 am

I'm pretty sure that the demands for a basic cleaner (washing the floors, emptying trash etc.) aren't impossibly high in hospitals either, so even someone with poorer than average social skills might be able to get that kind of job these days.

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02 Apr 2020, 9:37 am

BTDT wrote:

If you aren't worried about it and would like a job this may be the perfect time to apply for work in a hospital.

I've seen teams of volunteers being trained up by hospital staff. There are tens of thousands of delivery drivers being hired and British farmers are saying that they may need a "land army" (WW2 term) to bring crops in this summer. So yeah, there will be opportunities for some. It's also a perfect time to give young healthy people a useful role in this crisis, rather than demonising either them or the elderly population.

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02 Apr 2020, 11:08 am

I've heard that in some medical settings, the ability to do everything precisely the same way each and every time outweighs the lack of social skills. Some Aspies are good at doing that.

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02 Apr 2020, 11:14 am

BTDT wrote:

I've heard that in some medical settings, the ability to do everything precisely the same way each and every time outweighs the lack of social skills. Some Aspies are good at doing that.

So long as the prescribed method has been perfected, that could be the case.

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02 Apr 2020, 11:28 am

I've never had Influenza or COVID-19, so my opinion doesn't count. It would only be speculative.

COVID seems to be much more serious because it's highly contagious in ways we are yet to understand. Most people who have the flu seem to have been ill for about five days and if they aren't hospitalised they stay home without quarantine. Their entire families don't seem to be at risk to the extent that they would need to decontaminate everything and keep a designated radius around them, or wear masks. It seems that Influenza has vaccines as well as a type of medication (Tamiflu?), whereas COVID patients are either left to suffocate on their own, or they need ventilators. The illness lasts much longer as well as the period of being contagious. It's also insidious since many people with COVID are asymptomatic and can spread the virus to someone else who might die.

I won't compare the numbers since this is a new outbreak and none of us are immune to COVID, so it's hard to compare via statistics.

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