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07 Jun 2023, 5:30 pm

Glacier differs too.

We yanks say "GLAY-shur".

Upper class Brits like David Attenborough say "GLASS-ee-er". Harder to say. But since ice IS rather glass-like in appearance it has a certain visual logic to it.



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07 Jun 2023, 5:47 pm

I can't find it, but I'm sure they have the same roots...


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07 Jun 2023, 6:05 pm

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I can't find it, but I'm sure they have the same roots...

What has the same roots?



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07 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm

Glacier and Glass


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07 Jun 2023, 6:27 pm

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Glacier and Glass

That and "glaze"...as in "glazed donut" and "my eyes glaze over" etc. probably are all rooted in "glass".



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07 Jun 2023, 6:42 pm

Should we bust this out into an etymology thread? lol


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07 Jun 2023, 8:59 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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Glacier and Glass

That and "glaze"...as in "glazed donut" and "my eyes glaze over" etc. probably are all rooted in "glass".


French (and Latin) word for frozen is the root.


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07 Jun 2023, 9:01 pm

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And there's no other way to say schedule than SHEDule....


What about the c?


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07 Jun 2023, 9:16 pm

I always assumed it was a silent C whereas school was always pronounced as SKOOL. Never thought about it really but virtually all words starting with sch are pronounced as if it were a k.


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07 Jun 2023, 10:50 pm

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I always assumed it was a silent C whereas school was always pronounced as SKOOL. Never thought about it really but virtually all words starting with sch are pronounced as if it were a k.


I wish English had more triple consonants. We'd just need to keep a potato handy. :nerdy:


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08 Jun 2023, 2:15 am

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envirozentinel wrote:
And there's no other way to say schedule than SHEDule....


What about the c?

Americans say "SKED ule".

However..."ch" is pronounced like the ch in "church".

But if you're...gonna say it that incorrect British way (just kidding) then....

You can think of that ch in the word "schedule" as having the ch sound of 'church' with an s in front. And that would yield the same "sh" sound of "should", or the British "schedule".

But that raises the question of ...why isnt everything that starts with the SH sound spelled "sch"?

Sche schould go to the sched to get a scheet of scheet metal.



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08 Jun 2023, 2:19 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Glacier differs too.

We yanks say "GLAY-shur".

Upper class Brits like David Attenborough say "GLASS-ee-er". Harder to say. But since ice IS rather glass-like in appearance it has a certain visual logic to it.



I can't answer for Attenborough, but most people over here say GLAY- sier.


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08 Jun 2023, 2:39 am

DeepHour wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Glacier differs too.

We yanks say "GLAY-shur".

Upper class Brits like David Attenborough say "GLASS-ee-er". Harder to say. But since ice IS rather glass-like in appearance it has a certain visual logic to it.



I can't answer for Attenborough, but most people over here say GLAY- sier.


He says it some odd way. Maybe thats it.



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08 Jun 2023, 3:43 am

I say glasseeya


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08 Jun 2023, 4:44 am

naturalplastic wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
And there's no other way to say schedule than SHEDule....


What about the c?

Americans say "SKED ule".

However..."ch" is pronounced like the ch in "church".

But that raises the question of ...why isnt everything that starts with the SH sound spelled "sch"?

Sche schould go to the sched to get a scheet of scheet metal.




There are lots of people here of German extract with surnames such as Schroeder, Schwartz, Schultz etc with a silent C. Like Schubert and Schumann as well.... That's where I was coming from with the shed schedule in the grand scheme!


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08 Jun 2023, 6:34 am

envirozentinel wrote:
English is rather a silly language really. Many words aren't pronounced as they are spelt. As a scrabble player and crossword ace I don't care much about pronunciation, only spelling. But occasionally people such as my Mom and others didn't know what I was talking about. For instance Ì mentioned taffeta fabric once saying taFEETa and she said it's TAFFeta


It is a very muddled language because Britain has been invaded by so many other countries. They have all left parts of their language in English. e.g. pre Roman it was Celtic. Then Latin from the Romans. Then Germanic from the Anglo Saxons. Then Scandinavian from the Vikings. Then French from the Normans. And probably god knows what else from other invaders I've forgotten.

English has 5 vowels and something like 26 vowel sounds. It must be a nightmare for people learning English!

I'm an editor so I have to deal with English problems every day! :lol:


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