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13 Mar 2019, 3:32 pm

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What's your favourite meat?



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13 Mar 2019, 3:51 pm

beef or turkey

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13 Mar 2019, 4:59 pm

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Are you familiar with the works of Charles Baudelaire?



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13 Mar 2019, 5:31 pm

Yes I read a small book of his essays somewhere once, and I don’t know that I truly retained anything

Do u like his writing?


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13 Mar 2019, 6:20 pm

I went through a phase, a few years ago, where I was obsessed with Baudelaire and TS Eliot. Although I still admire their work objectively, they're somewhat tainted in my mind owing to the fact that, for complicated reasons which I won't go into, I associate them with a particularly nasty psychologist I was seeing at the time.

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13 Mar 2019, 6:34 pm

People don't actually realise that Eliot wrote a great deal of highly regarded French verse in the symbolist style of Laforgue, Baudelaire and co. I was speaking about this not long ago to a Catholic priest, who had received a top notch education in Francophone Switzerland, and he had had no idea preciously.

Dans le Restaurant:

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Le garcon délabré qui n'a rien à faire
Que de se gratter les doigts et se pencher sur mon épaule:
"Dans mon pays il fera temps pluvieux,
Du vent, du grand soleil, et de la pluie;
C'est ce qu'on appelle le jour de lessive des gueux."
(Bavard, baveux, à la croupe arrondie,
Je te prie, au moins, ne bave pas dans la soupe).
"Les saules trempés, et des bourgeons sur les ronces—
C'est là, dans une averse, qu'on s'abrite.
J'avais septtans, elle était plus petite.
Elle etait toute mouillée, je lui ai donné des primavères."
Les tâches de son gilet montent au chiffre de trente-huit.
"Je la chatouillais, pour la faire rire.
J'éprouvais un instant de puissance et de délire."

Mais alors, vieux lubrique, a cet âge...
"Monsieur, le fait est dur.
Il est venu, nous peloter, un gros chien;
Moi j'avais peur, je l'ai quittee a mi-chemin.
C'est dommage."

Mais alors, tu as ton vautour!
Va t'en te décrotter les rides du visage;
Tiens, ma fourchette, décrasse-toi le crâne.
De quel droit payes-tu des expériences comme moi?
Tiens, voilà dix sous, pour la salle-de-bains


Phlébas, le Phénicien, pendant quinze jours noyé,
Oubliait les cris des mouettes et la houle de Cornouaille,
Et les profits et les pertes, et la cargaison d'etain:
Un courant de sous-mer l'emporta tres loin,
Le repassant aux étapes de sa vie antérieure.
Figurez-vous donc, c'etait un sort penible;
Cependant, ce fut jadis un bel homme, de haute taille.




Readers of The Waste Land will recognise the lines in bold as a French version of the fourth part of the poem, "Death by Water":

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Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead,
Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep sea swell
And the profit and loss.
A current under sea
Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell
He passed the stages of his age and youth
Entering the whirlpool.
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.


And yet it was the French poem, Dans le Restaurant, that Eliot first wrote.

For the record, I consider Death by Water to be one of the most poignant things ever written; my eyes are wet now, writing this.



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13 Mar 2019, 7:37 pm

I was obsessed with Eliot when I was 17. I'm still afraid of April because of the imagery in The Waste Land.

Do you like Pound? I never did.


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13 Mar 2019, 8:28 pm

To be honest, I found Pound's character so repulsive that I recoiled at the thought of reading his work. I still haven't read anything he wrote, beyond a few lines here and there.



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13 Mar 2019, 8:58 pm

Did you ever have a curfew?


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13 Mar 2019, 9:11 pm

Not really. When I didn't have my driver's license yet and relied on friends and an older girlfriend to drive me around, I had a curfew that I adhered to pretty well, but that period was short. After I got my drivers license at 16, even when I wasn't driving and still getting a ride, the curfew thing went by the wayside. In the summers I would come home late, very early in the morning or at 17 sometimes not until the next day.

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13 Mar 2019, 9:25 pm

I was not allowed to go out in the first place to have a curfew! Lol
Well not always true as my parents were inconsistent— sometimes the curfew was 2 hrs outside during daytime max.
Often got yelled at when I returned though

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13 Mar 2019, 9:33 pm

I was allowed to go out but I never did, so I didn't have a curfew. I never left the house until I started Uni.

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13 Mar 2019, 9:53 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I was allowed to go out but I never did, so I didn't have a curfew. I never left the house until I started Uni.

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Why did you never leave your house?



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13 Mar 2019, 9:54 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Did you ever have a curfew?

No.



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13 Mar 2019, 9:57 pm

Dylanperr wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I was allowed to go out but I never did, so I didn't have a curfew. I never left the house until I started Uni.

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Why did you never leave your house?


I've always been very shy, very introverted, afraid of other girls, and autistic -- not able to keep up with the sensory stuff. I had no interest in going to pubs or parties or other noisy night time events.

Even now I seldom leave the house because of agoraphobia.

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13 Mar 2019, 10:01 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Dylanperr wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I was allowed to go out but I never did, so I didn't have a curfew. I never left the house until I started Uni.

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Why did you never leave your house?


I've always been very shy, very introverted, afraid of other girls, and autistic -- not able to keep up with the sensory stuff. I had no interest in going to pubs or parties or other noisy night time events.

Even now I seldom leave the house because of agoraphobia.

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Im very shy and introverted to. and what is the same question. It would be a good idea to put the name of the question instead of just putting same q because not everyone will know what someone means if they put same q.