Prometheus18 wrote:
UncannyDanny wrote:
I do believe in God, but I happen to find myself being more spiritual than religious.
I believe in God, only because there has to be at least a living force that guides and watches over us, in addition to giving us a sense of morality, common sense, and free will.
Same question.
Why does there "have to be"? I also don't see any
logical necessity by which morality must be God-given, though I'll admit that in a post-Christian world, morals have declined, and that I don't consider it a coincidence. I don't see what common sense has to do with God and the idea that free will is something God-given is a literal contradiction. I'm not having a go at you here; I'd love, more than anyone else, for what you're saying to be true, but I just don't see how it can be.
Okay, let me clarify:
What I meant to say was from the beginning of time, when the universe was created, there
has to be either a deity/group of deities and/or a really strong force that makes and keeps the entire world made and together as it is today. A deity/group of group of deities and/or a really strong force that gives conscious beings/life forms (spiritual and human beings included) a sense of morality, common sense, and free will.
All I'm saying is that I do believe in God himself, even though I happen to find myself more spiritual than religious. Sure, there may be the existence of other gods/goddesses, and they're quite powerful, but I believe that God is the god of the entire universe (which pretty means EVERYTHING, so He HAS to be THE
most powerful), while others gods' powers and abilities are more limited (e.g. Posiedon is the god of the seas, earthquakes, and horses, meaning he has abilities only limited to those. Thor is the Aesir god of thunder, meaning his abilities are only limited to thunderstorms, lightning, and certain type of warfare. And so on).
Look, all I'm saying is that God (if not some kind of a powerful mystical force)
may have given us a sense of morality, but I don't believe that you HAVE to believe in God or be a Christian in order to be moral. I have seen people of other religions (e.g. Buddhists, Shintoists, Jews, etc.) who tend to be a LOT more moral than many Christians are, since many Christians, especially from history, have done immoral things to other people and discriminated them just because they're not Christian, which they even THREATEN them to meet the devil in the afterlife even though they had done NOTHING wrong!
Okay, have I clarified enough? You don't have to agree with it if don't want to, but at LEAST understand it.