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23 Mar 2019, 8:25 pm

Rapists, murderers, and serial killers deprived people of their dignity (and, in the case of murderers), their lives.

They should be punished accordingly.

There’s no excuse, in the vast majority of cases, for their actions.



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23 Mar 2019, 8:42 pm

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23 Mar 2019, 8:48 pm

^ I want a Scottish Fold :heart: but am not responsible enough , but don't tell my GF or they will be one here within a week.


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23 Mar 2019, 9:39 pm

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23 Mar 2019, 9:46 pm

I feel like victims and their families should have a voice as to whether perpetrators of crimes against them should be held accountable for those crimes.



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23 Mar 2019, 9:50 pm

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^ I want a Scottish Fold :heart: but am not responsible enough , but don't tell my GF or they will be one here within a week.

"A ferret?! NOOOOOOO!! Please, anything but a ferret!!"

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Ferrets are awesome.



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23 Mar 2019, 10:09 pm

Kuraudo I see you in business. The positivity you attempt to exhibit is what employers want and what leaders have.



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23 Mar 2019, 10:14 pm

Well I feel better. I actually got 6-7 hours of sleep and last day of work for the week. 8)



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24 Mar 2019, 12:39 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Rapists, murderers, and serial killers deprived people of their dignity (and, in the case of murderers), their lives.

They should be punished accordingly.

There’s no excuse, in the vast majority of cases, for their actions.

punishment is ineffective as a rehabilitator and as a deterrent. i do agree, though, that repeat violent offenders should be where they can hurt the fewest people.



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24 Mar 2019, 1:00 am

I posted 3 positive things about myself. I am right now getting to my biology homework for college.



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24 Mar 2019, 8:11 am

Punishment is effective....as something very unpleasant for the perpetrator.

I don’t want my rapist, say, to feel very good in life.



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24 Mar 2019, 8:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Punishment is effective....as something very unpleasant for the perpetrator.

I don’t want my rapist, say, to feel very good in life.


Justice isn't about rehabilitating these monsters, or even about 'punishing' them; the worst ones won't earn release and therefore don't need to be taught a lesson.

Most violent offenders cannot be rehabilitated or changed, but they can be stopped. Prison takes their freedom just as they have taken ours. In that regard it is logical and just.

Justice is about upholding the law in a civilised society so that criminals are not on the streets to reoffend. Whether prison is a deterrent or not, is irrelevant. If the law is broken a person must be held accountable within the scope of the law, and the victim must be protected. Case closed. Otherwise, why do we have laws?

Furthermore, victims should not need to testify or give VIS to determine the sentence. The Criminal Code determines sentences. Testifying against violent criminals is just another form of abuse the legal system demands against the most vulnerable members of society, those who have already been traumatised. Speaking as someone who did need to testify against a violent, convicted psychopath and reveal extremely intimate details of the crime in a court of strangers, I can tell you it nearly killed me to relive the story for the sentencing. This was an unnecessary violation of my rights as a sovereign individual, because the perp was already convicted of their crime.

On behalf of other WP members who've experienced violent, sadistic, torturous premeditated crime, on behalf of those WP members including myself who have lost friends and family members to senseless murder, and on behalf of my nephew and his best friend who were butchered by a random gang of strangers, I stand firm that victims' rights come first.

Perps deserve the full extent of the law where they offend, whether that includes incarceration, capital punishment or institutionalisation for mental illness. This keeps victims safe.


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24 Mar 2019, 9:56 am

I couldn’t agree more....



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24 Mar 2019, 1:51 pm

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Kuraudo I see you in business. The positivity you attempt to exhibit is what employers want and what leaders have.


Business? What kind of business? :? :scratch:


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